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Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1765  Tuesday, 28 September 2004

[1]     From:   John Briggs <
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        Date:   Monday, 27 Sep 2004 15:15:54 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

[2]     From:   Peter Bridgman <
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        Date:   Monday, 27 Sep 2004 16:13:58 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

[3]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Monday, 27 Sep 2004 13:31:35 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

[4]     From:   Dan Decker <
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        Date:   Monday, 27 Sep 2004 21:44:41 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death


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From:           John Briggs <
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Date:           Monday, 27 Sep 2004 15:15:54 +0100
Subject: 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

Sophie Masson wrote:

 >why, in your opinion, did
 >Judith and Thomas Quiney marry in Lent and risk excommunication?

Presumably because they weren't Roman Catholics.  Perish the thought
that this might have some bearing on the "Was Shakespeare a Catholic?"
question!

John Briggs

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From:           Peter Bridgman <
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Date:           Monday, 27 Sep 2004 16:13:58 +0100
Subject: 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

Sophie Masson asks ...

 >why, in your opinion, did
 >Judith and Thomas Quiney marry in Lent and risk excommunication?

It's something of a mystery.  Judith, at 31, might have been considered
an old maid.  Thomas (27), who ran a pub in Stratford, had already got
another woman, Margaret Wheeler, very pregnant.  Perhaps the evil Thomas
persuaded poor Judith to marry him in a hurry before Margaret went into
labour? Perhaps Judith and Thomas were madly in love and knew WS would
disapprove of their marriage?  WS doesn't seem to like Thomas much:  in
his will he refers to Susanna's husband, John Hall, by name, but refers
to Judith's husband as "such husband ... as she might be married unto".
  Perhaps, as Catholics, they weren't overly worried about the Anglican
excommunication?  Who knows.

Peter Bridgman

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Monday, 27 Sep 2004 13:31:35 -0400
Subject: 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

I recall reading somewhere that the convoluted language in some of the
late plays, particularly the Shakespearean portions of TNK, show signs
of tertiary syphilis.

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From:           Dan Decker <
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Date:           Monday, 27 Sep 2004 21:44:41 EDT
Subject: 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1754 Judith's Wedding; Shakespeare's Death

 >I'm working on something which may or may not turn into a play or a
 >script, based on the last months of Shakespeare's life. A couple of
 >questions I'd like to ask other SHAKSPEReans: why, in your opinion, did
 >Judith and Thomas Quiney marry in Lent and risk excommunication? Would
 >it have been a more sombre affair than normal? And also--have there been
 >any sustained interpretations or examinations made as to the nature of
 >Shakespeare's ill-health, leading to his death?

Be sure to see "Herbal Bed," a brilliant play based on the tribulations
of WS' other daughter, Susanne, (the 'good' daughter) during the failing
months of WS' life.

Judith and Quiney may have married in an unusual fashion because it
seems Quiney also had another girl in Stratford pregnant at the same
time, besides Judith.

I'm not aware of any sustained examinations of WS' ill health, but, in
my lowly opinion, the sonnets suggest that WS had contracted syphilis in
his early twenties. It apparently affected his brain in his final years
before it killed him, but not so much that he couldn't change Judith's
position in his will at the last minute (for marrying young Quiney? Was
Quiney a ne'er-do-well gold digger? Was he just like his ol' man,
looking on Will as a meal ticket?)

d

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