2004

Shakespeare Globe Centre Australia National Youth

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1639  Friday, 3 September 2004

From:           Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 3 Sep 2004 10:23:04 +1000
Subject:        Shakespeare Globe Centre Australia National Youth Production

For all Australian SHAKSPERereans in the vicinity of Sydney on October 1
and 2, and any visitors who may be interested, the Shakespeare Globe
Centre Australia will be mounting its national youth production on
October 1 and 2, in the Bondi Pavilion. The play this year is Cymbeline.
The performers are chosen from across Australia through the Centre's
annual competition, the Shakespeare Globe Centre Youth Festival. It's
not only young actors, but also young composers, musicians, dancers and
designers who will be showcased at the production. I attended the NSW
State finals in early August and was hugely impressed by the talent,
creativity and enthusiasm of the young people concerned, and their
feeling for and understanding of Shakespeare. I am sure we will see more
of these young Shakespeareans in the future!

(I have a personal interest in this, as my 17 year old son Xavier, who
was a regional finalist, has been chosen to perform in the national
production-an achievement of which we're very proud!)
The Centre, which is located at the University of Sydney, can be
contacted at ph: 02 9351 5230, email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Sophie Masson
author site: www.northnet.com.au/~smasson

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CFP Reminder, Leeds 2005

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1638  Friday, 3 September 2004

From:           Barbara D. Palmer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 2 Sep 2004 10:36:32 -0400
Subject:        CFP Reminder, Leeds 2005

REMINDER: CALL FOR PAPERS
REED-Sponsored  Sessions at the
International Medieval Congress 2005
University of Leeds, 11-14 July 2005

"Rereading Household Records"

Please direct inquiries, expressions of interest, and one-page (maximum)
abstracts (by 15 September) to either of the sessions' co-organizers:
Ted McGee,
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Southampton's Tutor Swithun Wells

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1636  Thursday, 2 September 2004

From:           Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 1 Sep 2004 14:10:51 +0100
Subject: 15.1618 Southampton's Tutor Swithun Wells
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1618 Southampton's Tutor Swithun Wells

John Briggs writes ...

 >If both these statements are true, it means there was no tutor at
 >Southampton House for a whole decade, while Southampton
 >was aged 8 to 18.

 >When reading a book with a title such as 'Shakespeare - the Evidence',
 >one should never overlook the possibility that both statements may be
 >false.

I agree the title isn't wonderful but the book is very detailed and
usually reliable.  And it seems both statements are true.  Southampton
became a royal ward at the age of 8, after his father's death, and was
removed from Southampton House.  And he didn't move back in with his mum
until he was 17.

Peter Bridgman

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MRDS Sponsored CFP for Leeds 2005

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1637  Friday, 3 September 2004

From:           Peter Greenfield <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 02 Sep 2004 10:56:33 -0700
Subject:        MRDS Sponsored CFP for Leeds 2005

MRDS-Sponsored Sessions at the
International Medieval Congress 2005
University of Leeds, 11-14 July 2005

"In Honor of Alexandra Johnston"

The Medieval and Renaissance Drama Society wishes to honor Alexandra
Johnston at the time of her retirement from teaching at the University
of Toronto next year.  As we all know, Sandy's contribution to the study
of medieval and Renaissance drama and culture has been enormous.
Through her work on the York cycle and its records, and as creator and
guiding spirit of the Records of Early English Drama project, she has
energized the growth of scholarship in the field over the past
quarter-century.  This MRDS-sponsored session invites papers which speak
to the full range of Sandy's interests: on literary and textual concerns
as well as on dramatic records and performance, on her teaching
interests as well as her research, including topics such as connections
between medieval theatre and Shakespeare or Chaucer.

Proposals, expressions of interest and inquiries should be directed the
organizer, Peter Greenfield, at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..  One-page (maximum)
abstracts (email preferred) should be sent to Greenfield by 15 September
2005.  Further information on the 2005 International Medieval Congress
(and its special thematic strand of "Youth and Age") is available at
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/imi/imc/imc.htm.

Peter Greenfield
Department of English, CMB 1045
University of Puget Sound
Tacoma, WA  98416-1045
USA

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Sonnet 89

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1635  Thursday, 2 September 2004

[1] From:       Bill Arnold <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 1 Sep 2004 05:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1622 Sonnet 89
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1622 Sonnet 89

[2] From:       Stephen Dobbin <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 1 Sep 2004 15:16:23 +0100 (BST)
Subject:        Sonnet 89.

[3] From:       Colin Cox <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 01 Sep 2004 07:51:44 -0700
Subject: 15.1622 Sonnet 89
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1622 Sonnet 89

[4] From:       Martin Green <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 01 Sep 2004 22:59:09 -0400
Subject: 15.1608 Sonnet 89
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1608 Sonnet 89


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From:           Bill Arnold <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 1 Sep 2004 05:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1622 Sonnet 89
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1622 Sonnet 89

Sally Drumm writes, "Could you explain more about Shakespeare's sonnet
form--theories as to why it is as it is?    Would you?  Who would you
say are the major carriers of the form into the 21st century; a
genealogy of sorts?  Have there only been diluters and adjuncts, or has
something new come from inheritors of the form?"

OK: for a full discussion of the *forms* of sonnets, there are many
scholarly studies, but I would point you to a marvelous work: *The New
Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics*, edited by Alex Preminger
and T.V.F. Brogan, et al., 1993.  As I recall, from memory, Shakespeare
*created* a new form, with three stanzas, and two couplets, rhyme
schemes specific.

OK: prior to that, the Petrachan dominated, with two stanzas, eight and
six, rhyme schemes specific.  Also, the breaks in stanzaic form in a
good poet dictated a break, or shift, if you will [pun intended!] of
thought.

OK: as to Hardy Cook's well-thought out response about the Romantic
Poets, who I also taught, indeed, we agree: the *I* form does not
dictate same treatments over the ages.  I concur with his point, with a
slight qualification of my own, at least when it concerns Shakespeare's
sonnets: Will S.  *invoked* his own name in his sonnets.  For me, that
is telling!  What it tells me probably does not *tell* the same thing to
others.  Isn't diversity of opinion *marvelous*?

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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From:           Stephen Dobbin <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 1 Sep 2004 15:16:23 +0100 (BST)
Subject:        Sonnet 89.

"The point is, therefore, invalid."

I glanced up at the by-line to see who was pronouncing with such
Olympian certainty. I won't tell you whose name I expected to find (we
will all have our list of the usual suspects) but was surprised to find
it was our very own moderator who was being so immoderate.

Let me editorialise some much needed uncertainty into Hardy's preceding
sentence.

The English Romantic poets (it has been argued) invented the modern
sense of subjectivity through (what has been posited as) their radical
transformation of the "I-form" of lyric poetry.

This argument always reminds me of the argument that "only humans
possess consciousness." Contemplating it is a stimulating and
challenging intellectual exercise, but deep down everyone who has ever
owned a dog, a cat or a parrot knows it is complete bollocks.  Either
that or there is a very special, obscure and narrow sense of the word
'consciousness' being used here.

Similarly anyone who has read Villon, Wyatt, Sappho, Horace, Archilocus,
Shakespeare, etc., etc. (I could go on - and frequently do) knows that,
in terms of a sense of self, self pity and self absorption you can't
slide a Rizzla between them and those Johnny-come-lately Lakeland wusses
like Wordsworth, Coleridge and Byron. Either that or there is a very
special obscure and narrow sense of the word 'subjectivity' being used here.

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From:           Colin Cox <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 01 Sep 2004 07:51:44 -0700
Subject: 15.1622 Sonnet 89
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1622 Sonnet 89

 >Are there
 >any historical accounts in which William Shakespeare refers to himself
 >as associated with a particular genre? As poet, or dramatist?  Even as
 >to being a writer?

In Sonnet 110 he refers to himself as an actor.

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From:           Martin Green <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 01 Sep 2004 22:59:09 -0400
Subject: 15.1608 Sonnet 89
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1608 Sonnet 89

With respect to my finding an allusion to a condom in Troilus and
Cressida, Jack Kamen writes, "The OED, however, gives the year 1708 for
the first recorded use of 'condom.' "But that doesn't mean that the
object did not exist well before 1708.  I believe the passage I cited
clearly shows that it did.

Martin Green

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