The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1488 Monday, 9 August 2004
[1] From: Robin Hamilton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 26 Jul 2004 17:02:19 +0100
Subj: Re: SHK 15.1473 Thunder
[2] From: Sebastian Perry <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Wednesday, 28 Jul 2004 17:05:20 +0100
Subj: Re: Thunder
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From: Robin Hamilton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 26 Jul 2004 17:02:19 +0100
Subject: 15.1473 Thunder
Comment: Re: SHK 15.1473 Thunder
Bruce W. Richman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>writes,
>The cannon-ball-down-the-trough citations are surely correct, and
>represent some admirable scholarship by those who provided them. I have
>read, but as an apparently poorer scholar cannot provide a citation,
>that thunder was also simulated in the theater by grasping a thin sheet
>of tin at one end and snapping the wrist to create a ripple through the
>sheet that counterfeited the sound of thunder quite well.
I've come-on both the tin sheet theory and the
cannonballs-down-the-trough theory.
But in the mid-sixties, I got taken on a tour by Duncan McCrea backstage
of the Citizens Theatre (Glasgow) and they still had a cannonball-run.
I don't think they'd used it since the forties, but it was still there.
So thunder-effects, certainly in Glasgow in the forties (think Bridie)
were still used.
So it's not *such* history.
Or are the forties history?
Really, before my time, but Duncan was there.
The Sleeping Clergyman
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From: Sebastian Perry <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Wednesday, 28 Jul 2004 17:05:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Thunder
Many thanks to those who responded to my query about thunder. I am a
little surprised, however, that the explanations given so far seem to
rest on a single Jonson quotation and an Italian analogue.
Rereading Leslie Thomson's article (apologies for the previous
misgendering -- I must have been thinking of Leslie Hotson), I notice
that she says the following:
"While some theatres might have had a means of creating the sound of
thunder by a 'roul'd bullet'. as Jonson implies [...], there is no
evidence before the eighteenth century of a 'thunder run' in which
cannon balls were rolled down a wooden trough in the heavens." (14)
Is there really no better documentary or archeological evidence on this
subject?
And a related question -- how is the effect achieved at the present-day
Globe?
Thanks,
Seb Perry
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