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Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1516  Thursday, 12 August 2004

[1]     From:   David Lindley <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 11 Aug 2004 12:57:58 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1505 Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)

[2]     From:   Mac Jackson <
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        Date:   Thursday, 12 Aug 2004 13:21:36 +1200
        Subj:   RE: SHK 15.1505 Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)


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From:           David Lindley <
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Date:           Wednesday, 11 Aug 2004 12:57:58 +0100
Subject: 15.1505 Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1505 Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)

The Lion commands are 'fire near.6 water' or 'fire fby.6 water' - where
'near' will give words either side, 'fby' is followed by, and the .n
indicates the limit on the number of words intervening (I think 10 is
the default and the maximum).  The real problem comes when one wants to
search old-spelling texts where there may be variant spellings of either
or both terms. In the earliest CD-ROM manifestation of LION it was
possible, using brackets, to list variant spellings for each of the
terms and to combine them in searches.  In the Web version this is not
possible, and using truncation symbols produces very variable effects,
which I have not managed to predict with any certainty (sometimes they
just seem to refuse to work in combined searches). LION has made some
steps to overcome problems with searching old-spelling texts, but I
would have thought this is an area where much more could be done in time
so that, for example, a search for 'music' would pick up 'musick',
'musicke' etc. but would not pick up 'musician', etc., , as using a
truncation symbol currently does.

LION is a very useful resource, but, as has been remarked before on this
list, it is not without its serious limitations.

David Lindley

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From:           Mac Jackson <
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Date:           Thursday, 12 Aug 2004 13:21:36 +1200
Subject: 15.1505 Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)
Comment:        RE: SHK 15.1505 Chadwyk-Healey Database (LION)

To find collocations of "fire" and "water" through LION, you just need
to key into the search box: "fire NEAR water". That will find
collocations within the default 10 words (more or less, because line
endings count in the system as a word or two). You can search a wider
area with "fire NEAR.20 water" OR "fire NEAR.30 water" OR whatever you
like, even "fire NEAR.800 water". It has always worked for me. To be
sure of getting any spellings of "fire" as "fyre" you can key in "f?re
NEAR water", and if you want to be sure of getting plurals you can enter
"f?re* NEAR water*".

Mac Jackson

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