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Question Concerning Measure for Measure
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1604  Monday, 30 August 2004

[1]     From:   Bill Arnold <
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        Date:   Thursday, 26 Aug 2004 08:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1598 Question Concerning Measure for Measure

[2]     From:   Kathy Dent <
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        Date:   Friday, 27 Aug 2004 00:22:34 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1576 Question Concerning Measure for Measure


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From:           Bill Arnold <
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Date:           Thursday, 26 Aug 2004 08:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1598 Question Concerning Measure for Measure
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1598 Question Concerning Measure for Measure

Tom Krause writes, "A famous historian, teacher, and theologian like
Mariana did not have to publish his views in book form for them to be
known.  Given that the Spanish debasement began in 1599, he had plenty
to complain about for the five years preceding the appearance of Measure
for Measure."

OK: what do you make of Will S.'s borrowing the title from Jesus' words,
and the meaning of those specific words, in all of this historical context?

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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From:           Kathy Dent <
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Date:           Friday, 27 Aug 2004 00:22:34 +0100
Subject: 15.1576 Question Concerning Measure for Measure
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1576 Question Concerning Measure for Measure

Further to the recent discussion on the significance of St Luke in
Measure for Measure, a note from Charles Whitworth printed in
Shakespeare Quarterly Vol 36 No 2 (Summer 1985) argues that St Luke's
Day (October 18) was, in Renaissance England, considered to be
propitious for choosing a husband. It seems that AR Wright in his book
British Calendar Customs (1940) records a 'charm' recited by young
women: "St Luke, St Luke, be kind to me / In dreams let me my true love
see".  Whitworth notes that Shakespeare also refers to St Luke in Taming
of the Shrew and he further cites Chapman's Monsieur D'Olive and Peele's
Old Wives' Tale as other examples of references to St Luke's Day and its
matrimonial connections.  Whitworth considers it symbolically
appropriate that Mariana should be at St Luke's while she awaits her
husband.

Kathy Dent

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