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A Query: MLA's Variorum Project
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1464  Wednesday, 21 July 2004

[1]     From:   Stuart Hampton-Reeves <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 20 Jul 2004 12:46:24 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

[2]     From:   John W. Kennedy <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 20 Jul 2004 13:49:46 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

[3]     From:   Bill Arnold <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 20 Jul 2004 19:24:33 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

[4]     From:   David Kathman <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 21 Jul 2004 00:07:24 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project


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From:           Stuart Hampton-Reeves <
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Date:           Tuesday, 20 Jul 2004 12:46:24 +0100
Subject: 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

I tried both on Google and the right website -- www.mla.org - was at the
top of the page both times.

Stuart Hampton-Reeves

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From:           John W. Kennedy <
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Date:           Tuesday, 20 Jul 2004 13:49:46 -0400
Subject: 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

This is a ridiculous subject, but facts is facts:

Google <MLA>:  1st of about 2,350,000
Google <"Modern Language Association">:  1st of about 140,000
Google <Modern Language Association>:  1st of about 3,820,000
Google <"Modern Language Association of America">:  1st of about 25,100
Google <Modern Language Association of America>:  1st of about 2,630,000

John W. Kennedy

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From:           Bill Arnold <
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Date:           Tuesday, 20 Jul 2004 19:24:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

William Proctor Williams writes, "Well, yes and no to John W. Kennedy's
response to Richard Burt.  I did not work my way through the 2,340,000
hits when I typed in 'MLA' or the 2,630,000 when I typed in 'Modern
Language Association of America,' but it is the case that in neither
instance was the MLA's home web page among those which came up in the
first two screens."

OK: I am a member of MLA, first joining in 1967.  I went to Google and
typed in MLA, and the following came up, at the top of the list; so
where is the beef?:

Web  Results 1 - 10 of about 2,320,000 for MLA [definition]. (0.15
seconds)

Modern Language Association (MLA): Format, Bibliography,
Style ...... Governance. Join the MLA. Member Search.
Membership Benefits. ... Book Publications Program. MLA
Bookstore. Institutional Subscriptions. MLA Handbook.
PMLA. Profession. ...
www.mla.org/ - 27k - Jul 19, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

(c)2004 Google

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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From:           David Kathman <
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Date:           Wednesday, 21 Jul 2004 00:07:24 -0500
Subject: 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1458 A Query: MLA's Variorum Project

To answer the query that started this thread:

Though Richard Knowles is officially the editor-in-chief of the MLA New
Variorum Shakespeare project, Paul Werstine is effectively co-editor
(whatever his official title is), and has been the one who comes to
conferences and tells everybody face-to-face what's going on.  Since at
least the late 90s, plans have been afoot to publish forthcoming
Variorum volumes in both print and electronic formats, ideally including
a version that people could access over the Internet.  At the 1999 SAA
in San Francisco, the 2000 MLA in Chicago, and the 2000 SAA in Montreal,
I attended meetings where these plans were discussed, and a sample
hypertext version of (part of) the Variorum *Antony and Cleopatra* was
presented.  Some people who had been working on a similar online version
of ancient Greek corpora had been brought in and were working on this.
However, in meetings at subsequent SAAs, Paul reported that there had
been significant problems with getting the pages to show up correctly
and consistently on various web browsers, and that the first attempts to
create an online version of one of the new but yet-unpublished Variorum
volumes were not usable.  One solution would be to have each page
available online in pdf format, but this would not allow hyperlinks or
searching the text, and would defeat much of the point of having the
volumes available online in the first place.  It's been a couple of
years or so since I last heard any updates, so I don't know if any
progress has been made, but that's the situation as I understood it then.

Dave Kathman

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