2004

Bloomsday

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1327  Monday, 21 June 2004

From:           Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 18 Jun 2004 20:02:07 +0100
Subject: 15.1306 Bloomsday
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1306 Bloomsday

 >... and Bloom/Shakespeare parallels, too.  Not for nothing
 >Stephen/Hamlet is presented as the "son" of Bloom/Shakespeare. And, at
 >the most exciting ending of the Second Chapter, in Bloom's eyes the
 >image of Stephen generates or conjures that of Bloom's lost child, Rudy,
 >who appears as if he were not the little baby of eleven months he was
 >when he died, but a boy of eleven - the same age Shakespeare's  son,
 >Hamnet, was when he died.

Thanks, Lucia. I want to read Ulysses again now.  I read it once in my
twenties and once in my thirties, so I'll have to hurry if I want to
squeeze a reading into my forties.

I must say I found the Hamlet discussion a bit pretentious (I much
prefer being in Bloom's company to being in Stephen's), but Chapter 10
is stunning.  The same idea as Rashomon, except it predates the movie by
35 years.

Peter Bridgman

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Last Call

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1326  Monday, 21 June 2004

From:           Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, June 21, 2004
Subject:        Last Call

Dear SHAKSPEReans,

As your editor, I try to exercise restraint with editorial intrusions.
However, it does appear to me that a number of threads have reached
their useful end. Anyone wishing to have a final say in one of the
following threads should do so now:

* Bloomsday
* Thighs and Sighs
* Representing Incest
* Hamlet Postings
* Hamlet's Ghost
* The Murder of Gonzago

  After tomorrow, I am calling an end to them. Interested parties can,
of course, carry on off-list.

Hardy M. Cook
Editor-Moderator of SHAKSPER

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Measured Response

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1324  Monday, 21 June 2004

From:           Mary McNally <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 18 Jun 2004 16:31:23 +0100
Subject: 15.1311 Measured Response
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1311 Measured Response

Didn't get the earlier debate here but I've just seen the Measure at the
National in London and it wasn't the worse I've seen. I did my MA thesis
on the role of Isabella (page and stage) many years ago and from stage
history I could glean, it seems it's always been a 'difficult'
(problem?!) play. The one with Josette Simon as Isabella at the RSC, I
think, was probably the best I've seen.

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Education

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1325  Monday, 21 June 2004

From:           Graham Hall <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 20 Jun 2004 15:51:26 +0000
Subject:        Thus comes the English with full power upon us.

Education, education, education, is the mantra of the current
ultra-right wing UK government. Their watchdog, the Qualification and
Curriculum Board, has just instructed examining bodies to set the
English test pass mark at 41% growls the deeply liberal Telegraph
newspaper. A marker complains that the texts set are so simplistic they
resemble police report writing.

Firstly, 41% got a decent 2.i. in my time. Moreover, Shakespeare writted
good cop writing, Secondarily, the pass mark has fallen by 16% over 8
years but the failure rate remains substantial. Sixt and lastly, all the
kids will get a good grade now. Thirdly, the Edukashun Sekratory will be
able to blare out the great pass rate improvement. And to conclude, move
along now, there's nothing more to see.

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Lear

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.1323  Monday, 21 June 2004

[1]     From:   Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 18 Jun 2004 09:19:35 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1312 Lear

[2]     From:   Brian Willis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Sunday, 20 Jun 2004 05:48:49 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.1312 Lear


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From:           Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 18 Jun 2004 09:19:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 15.1312 Lear
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1312 Lear

I had my first experience teaching a full semester course on Shakespeare
this spring, and I have to admit to being initially intimidated by the
prospect of teaching Lear. While I have some disagreements with Miller's
comments, mainly those Frank Whigham has expressed, I used the comments
to get the students talking about Lear, and the interaction was
thoughtful and successful. Since I'm guessing that someone on this
listserv first posted the link to Miller's comments, my thanks.

As You Like It, on the other hand, defeated me utterly in the classroom.

Jack Heller
Huntington College

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From:           Brian Willis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Sunday, 20 Jun 2004 05:48:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 15.1312 Lear
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.1312 Lear

Although the questions raised here are admirable ones, they still ignore
the fact that Lear was written for performance and seems to have been
popular enough to have been printed in quarto. (If I'm not mistaken, it
was last Shakespeare play to reach the quarto format?) Yes, it is dense
and rich enough to be appreciated on the page (as Keats pointed out so
many times), but for all of its cosmic and epic features, it was crammed
into the wooden O. Successfully too, apparently.

Brian Willis

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