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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0232 Friday, 4 February 2005 From: Dan Decker <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 3 Feb 2005 12:48:37 EST Subject: Sonnets Question Ok, so I read the sonnets. I saw lots that talk about Shakespeare's physical, sexual needs, desires and hookups with a woman or women unnamed. In them, the poet speaks clearly and unambiguously on the subject of his sexual designs. I did not see any sonnets that talked about the same sort of physical, sexual thing with any man or men. Can someone point out to me the sonnet(s) I missed? _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0231 Friday, 4 February 2005 From: Randall Martin <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, 04 Feb 2005 12:25:08 -0400 Subject: 16.0207 Duke Ellington Comment: Re: SHK 16.0207 Duke Ellington List members might be interested in knowing that there is another CD entitled Duke Ellington Live from the 1956 Stratford Festival, available on Music and Arts Programs of America (CD 616, 1989). It's a concert with pieces such as Harlem Air Shaft, Theme Trambene, and Harlem Suite (but not Such Sweet Thunder). It's excellent. Randall Martin _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0230 Friday, 4 February 2005 From: Kevin De Ornellas <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 03 Feb 2005 17:33:03 +0000 Subject: Theatrical Patronage in Early Modern Europe Theatrical Patronage in Early Modern Europe Keele University 10-11 September 2005 "Where should a poet nowe a Patron finde, To please his own, and please his Patrons minde?" This is a call for papers on any topic relating to theatrical patronage in Early Modern Europe. The conference will draw together scholars working on patrons and patronage networks in the British Isles and mainland Europe; it will also extend the focus of patronage studies beyond royalty and the nobility to consider gentry and civic patronage. We are especially keen to investigate the dynamic between patrons and the theatre as it affects not only canonical dramatists, but also actors, singers, female performers and children. We would be particularly interested in papers engaging with any of the following areas: Patronage and the circulation of dramatic texts (including dedicatory verses) Kinship relations and patronage networks Non-elite and non-metropolitan patronage Patronage by and of women and children Theatrical representations of patronage Patronage of commercial and amateur performance Please send abstracts (250 words) to Karen Britland (k.r.britland_at_engl.keele.ac.uk) or Lucy Munro (l.munro_at_engl.keele.ac.uk), or to School of English, Keele University, Staffordshire, ST5 5BG, by 30 April 2005. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0229 Thursday, 3 February 2005 [Editor's Note: This thread appears to me to be reaching its useful conclusion. Would contributors please make final statements before I close it.] [1] From: M Yawney <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 2 Feb 2005 11:45:43 -0800 (PST) Subj: Re: SHK 16.0218 Greenblatt Discussion Forum [2] From: Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 3 Feb 2005 08:23:06 -0000 Subj: Re: SHK 16.0218 Greenblatt Discussion Forum [3] From: Julia Crockett <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 3 Feb 2005 11:58:41 -0000 Subj: Re: SHK 16.0185 Greenblatt Discussion Forum [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: M Yawney <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 2 Feb 2005 11:45:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: 16.0218 Greenblatt Discussion Forum Comment: Re: SHK 16.0218 Greenblatt Discussion Forum I am somewhat confused why Mr. Basch keeps referring to Shakespeare's attraction to the lord as non-normal and unwholesome. I think that most people who interpret the attraction erotically posit it is as a normal and wholesome homosexual attraction. While I have heard some attribute a dark sexuality to Shakespeare's involvement with the dark lady, there is little, even in the most extreme interpretation of the sonnets addressed to the young man, to suggest anything perverse in this possible sexual attraction. Mr. Basch gives no examples to support his assertion of something dark in a more direct reading of the sonnets. Furthermore, if there is something not-normal and unwholesome in the these sonnets when seen as describing the poets relationship with a man, would not the some non-normality and unwholesomeness still be there if we see the sonnets as an allegory of poet's relationship with god? Mr. Basch does not indicate that he sees the poems as describing such a disturbing relationship with the divine, but surely the same content would be there whomever the sonnets were addressed to. Mr. Basch's perception of the relationship between Shakespeare and the (human) lord strikes me as particularly odd since the Shakespeare that Mr. Basch puts forward, one who encloses cryptic messages and embedded clues in his writing, strikes me as a fairly unwholesome figure. At the very least he is a more unwholesome Shakespeare than one who is writing about the vagaries and turns of ordinary human relationships. [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 3 Feb 2005 08:23:06 -0000 Subject: 16.0218 Greenblatt Discussion Forum Comment: Re: SHK 16.0218 Greenblatt Discussion Forum David Basch writes ... >Now read the letters from right to left from the letter "y" of the first >word "Why" in line 1 to pick up "yHV" and then read down to pick up a >second "h" in "Why" of the third line straddled by the pair of "V"s >above. This now reads "yHVh"-the Tetragramaton itself. Fascinating. However, in the versions of the bible available to WS - the Bishops and Geneva bibles - the tetragramaton was written 'Iehouah'. Peter Bridgman [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julia Crockett <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 3 Feb 2005 11:58:41 -0000 Subject: 16.0185 Greenblatt Discussion Forum Comment: Re: SHK 16.0185 Greenblatt Discussion Forum Alastair Fowler reviews Will in the World in Times Literary Supplement, 4 February 2005 No5314. The piece highlights the fictive/factual, speculative/historical boundaries of Greenblatt's peculiar brand of creative scholarship, concluding rather impatiently, "How did the intelligent Greenblatt come to write so sloppy a book?" Cheers, Julia _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0228 Thursday, 3 February 2005 From: Harvey Roy GreenbergThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Date: Wednesday, 2 Feb 2005 15:24:56 EST Subject: 16.0217 Al Pacino in "Merchant of Venice" Comment: Re: SHK 16.0217 Al Pacino in "Merchant of Venice" Quite an artful reading by Professor Amit, but the play has suffered in this century by twisting Shylock into a 'good' character. He is indeed fully fleshed because that is what Shakespeare does with his most interesting character, but in no way does this mean that Shakespeare is offering the kind of complex apologia to the Jews this reader reads. I saw a production at the Globe about ten years back in which Shylock was detestably presented as a Sturmer archetype, and yet in a bizarre fashion this vile MOV made more sense than these pro-semitic readings. Ironically, I still remember that there was a very large photo of Sam Wanamaker in the adjacent building, who was a mover and shaker in resurrecting the Globe. Vus machts a yid? Harvey Roy Greenberg MD _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.