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It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0056  Tuesday, 11 January 2005

[Editor's Note: Thanks to everyone who has replied publicly and
privately. The obviously consensus is to keep the e-mail digest format,
but other significant matters have been raised: some of which Eric will
look into; others of which I will respond to within the next day or so.]

[1]     From:   Abigail Quart <
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        Date:   Monday, 10 Jan 2005 10:27:27 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

[2]     From:   Richard Burt <
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        Date:   Monday, 10 Jan 2005 10:35:55 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

[3]     From:   Marcus Dahl <
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        Date:   Monday, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:25 -0000
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

[4]     From:   Colin Cox <
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        Date:   Monday, 10 Jan 2005 14:37:25 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

[5]     From:   John Perry <
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        Date:   Monday, 10 Jan 2005 23:51:56 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

[6]     From:   JD Markel <
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        Date:   Monday, 10 Jan 2005 18:10:21 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion


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From:           Abigail Quart <
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Date:           Monday, 10 Jan 2005 10:27:27 -0500
Subject: 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

I love the current format and I hate change.

If change occurs, a message board is better suited to the way we work on
SHAKSPER than a blog, but message boards take work out the wazoo, too.
Message boards also introduce the possibility of paid membership.

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From:           Richard Burt <
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Date:           Monday, 10 Jan 2005 10:35:55 -0500
Subject: 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

I just want to second all of Markel's excellent suggestions below. I
have found searching the database often does not get me what I want and
gets me lots of stuff I don't want (unlike Google). Also, on bogs I now
of, you have to become a member (like the Greenblatt discussion forum)
to contribute. So blogs have members just as listservs do (blog visitors
are like listserv lurkers)

Best,
Richard

 >Now you have e-mail interactivity and notice with discussions cataloged
 >at the website. I suggest
 >some changes to the cataloging. A simpler thread structure should be
 >implemented. I.e., visit the 2004 catalog
 >http://www.shaksper.net/archives/2004/index.html
 >
 >If I wanted to read all the comments in the "Macbeth Characters"
 >discussion I have to click six different links segregated by date.
 >Perhaps all responses should be collected in a one link, one thread, IOW
 >"one click away." If you wish to distinguish one thread as hotter than
 >another you might append a text function noting how many responses that
 >particular thread has received. Such might obviate the utility of the
 >"Current Postings" link at the homepage. Some sites use a fire icon to
 >denote heightened activity.
 >
 >If I wanted to add a comment to the Macbeth Characters thread currently
 >I cannot through the catalog. I believe I would have to have an e-mail
 >in my internet cache sequenced to the thread and therefrom respond - if
 >I saved one. So, there's an example how a chat function might be
 >beneficial. Shaksper.net is a unique situation.
 >
 >Finally, I would add a homepage link and catalog page for threads in the
 >nature of "calls for papers" and "announcements." Keep them in the main
 >catalog, but copy them to a unique catalog that interested users can
 >scroll without having to sift through the greater mount of textual and
 >performance threads.

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From:           Marcus Dahl <
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Date:           Monday, 10 Jan 2005 15:55:25 -0000
Subject: 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

Just for the record - I think moderated lists are probably better and
Hardy does a great job keeping the discussion ticking over without
boiling over (to mix my metaphors!).

I say with all the rest - I like Shaksper just the way it is!

All the best,
Marcus

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From:           Colin Cox <
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Date:           Monday, 10 Jan 2005 14:37:25 -0800
Subject: 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

I would be very willing to make a contribution to Hardy's expenses if
that helps.

Colin Cox

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From:           John Perry <
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Date:           Monday, 10 Jan 2005 23:51:56 -0500
Subject: 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

John Webb <
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 >Hardy has created a unique resource, ...
 >I think Hardy ought to find a few people to whom he can depute his
 >functions.

I like very much John's comments.  I appreciate that Hardy enjoys what
he does, and I would not want to dilute at all his enjoyment of
providing something that I enjoy so very much.

Nevertheless, when Hardy takes some time off, I really miss the forum.
If he could let himself share regularly some of the load, we could have
an unbroken stream of discussions, he could have some more time for
family and such, and others could be ready to take up the load when he
finds it necessary to break for a while, or even leave the list
altogether.

And, yes, I recognize the hubris of a patently unqualified dilettante
giving such suggestions to such a group of scholars.  It's too easy for
me, and quite hard for you-but someone should say it.

John Perry

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Date:           Monday, 10 Jan 2005 18:10:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0042 It's Time for Another Meta-Discussion

A couple of comments about my previous ones:

I wrote: "If I wanted to add a comment to the Macbeth Characters thread
currently I cannot through the catalog.  I believe I would have to have
an e-mail in my internet cache sequenced to the thread and therefrom
respond - if I saved one."

Being new to this site I had not realized all interaction in all threads
are routed through a single e-mail address.  Not important for me, but
this indicates how much more work you do in segregating reply e-mails
and attributing them to various threads.  Surely there's a way to lessen
your work in this regard?

As for my last suggestion, you might consider calling the separate
catalog "News."  I think that's visitor friendly.

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