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Prince Hal in the News Again
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0117  Thursday, 20 January 2005

[1]     From:   Kathy Dent <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 12:50:11 +0000
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0096 Prince Hal in the News Again

[2]     From:   Abigail Quart <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 14:55:56 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0102 Prince Hal in the News Again

[3]     From:   Al Magary <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 13:59:19 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0102 Prince Hal in the News Again


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From:           Kathy Dent <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 12:50:11 +0000
Subject: 16.0096 Prince Hal in the News Again
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0096 Prince Hal in the News Again

 >Prince Harry's not Hal either. Hal didn't blame Daddy for getting rid of
 >Mommy.

Hey, I'm no royalist, but I don't think there's any evidence that Harry
Windsor has expressed this opinion of his family history.

Kathy Dent

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From:           Abigail Quart <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 14:55:56 -0500
Subject: 16.0102 Prince Hal in the News Again
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0102 Prince Hal in the News Again

Mr. Sanders:

Noting the use of Shakespeare as a reference in American discussion,
whether political or otherwise, IS a legitimate use of this list.

We still have the choice of not reading threads we have no interest in,
don't we?

And I know from experience that Hardy is adamant in reining in the
really "cheap shots." Which is why I have already edited several
comments and pithy adjectives out of this post.

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From:           Al Magary <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 13:59:19 -0800
Subject: 16.0102 Prince Hal in the News Again
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0102 Prince Hal in the News Again

Alan J. Sanders wrote: "I suppose we must go through four more years of
cheap shots under the guise of a Shakespeare discussion?  Were I to head
down a particular path, I could say that the previous 'blue' office had
some very mysterious murders and unexplained pardons occur in its eight
years. Is there a Shakespeare reference here?  Was that a modern-day
Macbeth and Lady M.?"

I see from Susanne Greenhalgh's post today that the BBC is recostuming
four sets of Elizabethan characters in modern dress:  "The frame of
reference for the 4 commissioned plays appears to be British
celebrity/media culture--Kate [in Taming] as a young politician, Macbeth
set in a Gordon-Ramsay style kitchen (no shortage of sharp implements
..), MND set in the 'Center Parcs-like Dream Parks' and Beatrice and
Benedick as a TV talkshow couple."

Doesn't this suggest the durable quality of Shakespearean characters on
the world stage, and represent something worth discussing on this list?
  The recent Bush-as-Hal/H5 meme developed in the media, not here, and
now the aptly named Prince Harry is likened to Hal, again not here
initially.  If in 2008 Hilary Rodham Clinton is portrayed as Lady
Macbeth, I expect we will take note, and Mr. Sanders can then be
satisfied that we plebs may throw tomatoes at kings no matter what color
their robes.

Cheers,
Al Magary

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