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Date of King John
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0456  Thursday, 10 March 2005

From:           Bob Grumman <
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Date:           Thursday, 10 Mar 2005 09:07:04 -0500
Subject: 16.0412 Date of King John
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0412 Date of King John

 >Bob Grumman writes: ' I don't have to read [Vickers'] essay to know he
 >didn't prove [The Troublesome Raigne] was partly by Peele conclusively.'
 >
 >Wow, as Bob himself might say. He also thinks he doesn't need to consult
 >dictionaries. However the OED defines 'Conclusively' thus: 'In a
 >conclusive manner; so as to conclude or decide the question or matter;
 >decisively, finally.'

Apologies.  I use the term, "prove," intelligently, not as lawyers use
it or as dictionaries sometimes use it, but as scientists use it.  You
can't prove anything in history.  Whether Vickers demonstrated Peele
contributed to the Troublesome Raigne "conclusively," I doubt, but it's
possible--if he has any direct evidence of it.  I believe he only has
stylistic evidence (i.e. subjective evidence).  I'm neutral on the
matter, only annoyed here at the loose use of the terms "prove" and
"conclusively."

--Bob G.

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