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Shakespeare's Personal Faith
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0723  Friday, 15 April 2005

[1]     From:   Colin Cox <
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        Date:   Thursday, 14 Apr 2005 11:28:04 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0716 Shakespeare's Personal Faith

[2]     From:   Edmund Taft <
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        Date:   Thursday, 14 Apr 2005 15:21:32 -0400
        Subj:   Shakespeare's Personal Faith

[3]     From:   Stuart Manger <
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        Date:   Thursday, 14 Apr 2005 23:21:23 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0716 Shakespeare's Personal Faith

[4]     From:   Bruce MacDonald <
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        Date:   Friday, 15 Apr 2005 07:24:52 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0716 Shakespeare's Personal Faith


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From:           Colin Cox <
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Date:           Thursday, 14 Apr 2005 11:28:04 -0700
Subject: 16.0716 Shakespeare's Personal Faith
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0716 Shakespeare's Personal Faith

 >Only if we accept the unsupportable position that all the sonnets in the
 >collection were written to two people. And the other unsupportable
 >position that WS wrote them with the simple and single-minded objective
 >of unpacking his heart.

Why not? And why not?

Colin Cox

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From:           Edmund Taft <
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Date:           Thursday, 14 Apr 2005 15:21:32 -0400
Subject:        Shakespeare's Personal Faith

Bruce MacDonald writes, "In all his rantings, Basch ignores the fact
that (as any reasonably alert college freshman knows) the speaker in a
poem is not the poet. Helen Vendler carefully makes this
distinction...She recognizes that the 'I' of the sonnets is a character."

This is surely right, but it doesn't quite prove what MacDonald wants it
to prove. The speaker is not Shakespeare, true enough, but we all know
that some characters partake of their makers. In our own time, Bellow's
Augie March and Updike's Rabbit (I could go on) are not Saul Bellow and
John Updike respectively, but in central ways they reflect attitudes and
ideas of these two respective authors. Moreover, the history of English
sonnet sequences, especially the two great sequences before
Shakespeare's, Spenser's and Sidney's, demonstrates that there can be a
large biographical component to the "persona" of the "speaker."

So it's not so na

 

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