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First Folio Function
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0867  Wednesday, 4 May 2005

[1]     From:   Julia Griffin <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 03 May 2005 12:20:39 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

[2]     From:   David Lindley <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:38:06 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

[3]     From:   Marina Tarlinskaya <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 3 May 2005 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

[4]     From:   Louis W. Thompson <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:57:51 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

[5]     From:   Thomas Bishop <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 03 May 2005 20:42:01 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function


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From:           Julia Griffin <
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Date:           Tuesday, 03 May 2005 12:20:39 -0400
Subject: 16.0852 First Folio Function
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

What will you do, Prof Urkowitz, with the famous crux in Antony &
Cleopatra V ii:

                               For his Bounty,
There was no winter in't.  An Anthony it was,
That grew the more by reaping:       ?

Will you follow Theobald and emend to "autumn", or take the text as it is?

(This is a serious question - I'm interested in the idea of using the
Folio, and would like to know how you plan to proceed in a case like this.)

Julia

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From:           David Lindley <
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Date:           Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:38:06 +0100
Subject: 16.0852 First Folio Function
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

As someone who has edited Shakespeare, I have my own, perhaps
predictable, views on the debate about actors using the F1 text, rather
than modern editions - and I would certainly not accept the line that
these represent 'uncooked books', when, for example, it is demonstrable
fact that the scribe, Ralph Crane, who provided the copy for a number of
F1 plays, habitually modified the texts he transcribed.  But I would be
interested to know what the enthusiasts for using F1 do when there is
also a Quarto text of a play. On what basis do actors choose between
them?  I'd also be interested to know whether, even whilst using the
Folio text to work from, actors pay any attention to scholarly work on
the possible/likely origin of a particular play-text (authorial MS,
playhouse book, scribal transcript, etc.). I would have thought that
this might be of some material interest even to the most fervid opponent
of the modernised texts that editors produce.

David Lindley

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From:           Marina Tarlinskaya <
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Date:           Tuesday, 3 May 2005 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 16.0852 First Folio Function
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

If the poet bothered to write in iambic pentameter, divided into lines,
with its own metrical, stressing and syntactic rules, these have to be
respected by actors as well as by readers. Also, Shakespeare
differentiated his personages by verse structure, opposing them as
character types, "emplois," (heroes-villains, impulsive-sophisticated,
and more, see my book on Shakespeare's verse), it might help an actor's
interpretation of a part.--

M. Tarlinskaja

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From:           Louis W. Thompson <
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Date:           Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:57:51 EDT
Subject: 16.0852 First Folio Function
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

Why was the First Folio filled with errors, or usage which had to be
corrected later?

I have read one explanation....that the early printers were mostly
German and did not speak English.

This reasoning seems thin:
1) It is quite possible to copy another language without making errors.
2) Wouldn't a printer be extra careful setting type in a language
foreign to them?

Forgive my ignorance,
Louis W. Thompson

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From:           Thomas Bishop <
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Date:           Tuesday, 03 May 2005 20:42:01 -0400
Subject: 16.0852 First Folio Function
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0852 First Folio Function

Well, I certainly seem, without meaning to, to have gored Kim Carell's
ox. If he finds the Folio text empowering as an actor, more power to
him, and long may his lum reek. Anything that helps, as Steve Urkowitz
says. Let a thousand flowers bloom. Though I still think there are parts
of the Folio text that no-one, actor or editor, can make much sense of
on page or stage. Must all actors therefore become textual scholars as
well? That seems a poor exchange for them. A table of green fields, anyone?

Tom

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