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Shakespeare's Biblical References
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.0914  Tuesday, 17 May 2005

[1]     From:   Arthur Lindley <
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        Date:   Friday, 6 May 2005 22:48:58 +0800
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References

[2]     From:   John D. Cox <
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        Date:   Friday, 6 May 2005 11:11:49 -0400
        Subj:   Shakespeare and the Bible

[3]     From:   Kathy Dent <
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        Date:   Friday, 06 May 2005 17:47:50 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References

[4]     From:   Al Magary <
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        Date:   Friday, 06 May 2005 12:20:29 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References


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From:           Arthur Lindley <
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Date:           Friday, 6 May 2005 22:48:58 +0800
Subject: 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References

I'm interested in the subject, Bill, but what's the thesis?

Arthur Lindley

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From:           John D. Cox <
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Date:           Friday, 6 May 2005 11:11:49 -0400
Subject:        Shakespeare and the Bible

Bill Arnold's suggested topic deserves discussion, in my view, though I
don't think Naseeb Shaheen's copious research proves Arnold's conclusion
that Shaheen "leaves no doubt that Will Shakespeare *intended* his works
to rest upon the teachings of the Bible."

If one follows Shakespeare's copious allusions to Ovid, must one
conclude that Shakespeare intended his works to rest upon the teachings
of Ovid? The same could be asked of Plutarch, Holinshed, and many other
authors that we know Shakespeare read because of the copious research of
Geoffrey Bullough. Arnold restricts his viewpoint, classically
identifying the elephant as a rope because he has hold of its tale.

Even if Shakespeare were as restricted in his range of allusions as say,
John Bunyan, what are the teachings of the Bible on which his works
supposedly rest? The Ten Commandments? The whole law of Moses? The
teachings of the prophets (and if so, which ones)? The sayings of Jesus
(and if so, which ones)? The theology of Paul? The apocalyptic vision of
John?

Rather than jumping to conclusions, we might start with an instance, and
see where it takes us. An early and undisputed biblical allusion occurs
in Love's Labor's Lost, 4.3.157-58: "You found his mote; the King your
mote did see; / But I a beam do find in each of three." Berowne alludes
to a saying of Jesus that appears in both Matthew 7:3-5 and Luke 6:37.
What are we to make of the allusion?

John Cox
Hope College

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From:           Kathy Dent <
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Date:           Friday, 06 May 2005 17:47:50 +0100
Subject: 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References

 >With Hardy's indulgence, I wish to start a thread on Shakespeare's
 >Biblical references.

Oh, please.  Is it, I ask you, in the bowels of Christ etc., a
responsible act to provide this kind of grist for David Basch's
ever-grinding mill?

Kathy

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From:           Al Magary <
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Date:           Friday, 06 May 2005 12:20:29 -0700
Subject: 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.0887 Shakespeare's Biblical References

If I can tag a relevant query onto Bill Arnold's thread proposal:  In my
annotated edition of Hall's Chronicle (1548, 1550) I am citing
chapter/verse for biblical references and am considering quotes from
both a contemporary English Bible and a Latin version.

Hall (d. 1547, a few months after Henry VIII) wasn't that religious--he
bent as the wind blew in that tumultuous reign--but he often quotes (not
verbatim) or alludes to the Bible, always in English.  The complication
in my planning is that Hall's editor, coauthor for 1532-47, and
publisher was Richard Grafton, who was not just himself author of
chronicles but publisher of Bibles in English (Matthews' Bible, 1537,
printed in Antwerp; Coverdale's New Testament, 1538; Great or Cranmer's
Bible, 1539), the first edition of the Book of Common Prayer, 1549, and
service books and primers.

So:

1.  Although it may not make any great difference, should I quote one of
Grafton's versions, or a (Protestant) version most available today (KJV,
RSV)?  (The most popular English Bible of the later 16th century was the
Geneva Bible, 1560 and after, and especially the 1599 edition.)

2.  As the period was one of transition from Roman/Catholicism to
Anglican/Protestantism, would it make any sense to put in comparative
quotes from, say, Douai Rheims?

3.  And as the period was one of transition from Latin to English,
should the Vulgate be quoted parenthetically?

It would be terrific if my citations were to online versions but that
perhaps cannot be a requirement.

Thanks,
Al Magary

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