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Dead Horses and Closing Threads
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1984  Thursday, 1 December 2005

[1] 	From: 	Geralyn Horton <
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	Date: 	Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 12:40:14 -0500
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads

[2] 	From: 	Tom Krause <
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	Date: 	Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 21:51:42 -0500
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads

[3] 	From: 	Bill Arnold <
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	Date: 	Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 19:55:36 -0800 (PST)
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads


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From: 		Geralyn Horton <
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Date: 		Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 12:40:14 -0500
Subject: 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads

Abigail Quart <
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 >As the only living proponent of the theory that Will wrote at
 >least Sonnet #1 to a guy named Edmund, most likely his kid
 >brother, am I not allowed to mutter about it without having a
 >published paper to back it up? Which is fair, I suppose, but it
 >does get so very lonely.

Please, allow Abigail to mutter!  I missed this theory the first time. 
Whence comes it?  "World" = mund-?   and--"E" t or d- something? 
Or....?????

Do you suspect that Will's kid brother was drop-dead handsome, and 
possibly the model for the series of young men in the plays who need 
only walk into a room to have ladies and gents fall instantly in love?

G.L. Horton, playwright
Newton, MA
http://www.stagepage.info/monologs/_monologs.html

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From: 		Tom Krause <
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Date: 		Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 21:51:42 -0500
Subject: 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads

Larry Weiss writes:

 >"Please!  I stood foursquare with Thomas Larque in *opposition* to [the
 >Measure for Measure currency debasement] conjecture.  I chimed in only 
after
 >I felt that Tom was being ganged up on unfairly by the two proponents."

*Sigh* And now I must ask Hardy's indulgence to respond to the 
allegation that I took part in ganging up on the aforesaid listmember in 
a long-dead thread.  If anyone takes seriously Larry's suggestion that 
there was anything unfair in Larque's treatment, take a look at Larque's 
three posts from 9/10/04 
(http://www.shaksper.net/archives/2004/1693.html), and then work your 
way backward to see if you can find any provocation either by me or by 
one of my subordinate gangmembers.  I submit that any reproof that 
Larque may have received on my behalf was amply deserved.

Since the topic of my article has now been raised in two successive 
posts on this thread, I feel compelled to announce that I've posted the 
article itself (as published) plus voluminous supporting materials at 
www.wmshakespeare.com.  I had not intended to make this announcement so 
soon (there are still some typos, broken links, and maybe even some 
minor factual errors), but it seems timely now, and eventually I'll get 
around to perfecting the site (and will announce its perfection at that 
time).  Among other things, the materials on the site refute all of the 
objections I've heard to the article, and also (in the FAQ section) 
provide a list of 12 useful contributions that the article makes to 
Shakespeare scholarship even if its thesis turns out to be utterly 
wrong.  Since Hardy's got enough on his hands already (and we've been 
through this once before), I suggest that any reactions to the site be 
directed straight to me, or (better yet) posted on the Yahoo group I've 
set up for that purpose (see site for instructions).

As for the subject of this thread, I agree with everyone (including 
Larry) who would not discourage nonscholars from participating.  But I 
also encourage the true scholars among us to participate more, to give 
Hardy something more substantial back for his efforts.  If we heard more 
from the true scholars, perhaps the nonscholars would be content to sit 
back and watch.

Tom Krause

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From: 		Bill Arnold <
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Date: 		Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 19:55:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1969 Dead Horses and Closing Threads

Abigail Quart writes, "As the only living proponent of the theory that 
Will wrote at least  Sonnet #1 to a guy named Edmund, most likely his 
kid brother, am I not  allowed to mutter about it without having a 
published paper to back it up? Which is fair, I suppose, but it does get 
so very lonely."

No wonder Hardy wanted to *kill* this thread.  Surely, you jest?

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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