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Performing Angelo
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1624  Monday, 26 September 2005

[1] 	From: 	Mari Bonomi <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 09:51:15 -0400
	Subj: 	RE: SHK 16.1601 Performing Angelo

[2] 	From: 	Larry Weiss <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 12:01:39 -0400
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1601 Performing Angelo

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	Date: 	Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 12:06:05 -0400
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1601 Performing Angelo


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From: 		Mari Bonomi <
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Date: 		Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 09:51:15 -0400
Subject: 16.1601 Performing Angelo
Comment: 	RE: SHK 16.1601 Performing Angelo

On the subject of probable in-play ages, and regarding Abigail Quart's 
response to Charles Weinstein's quoting Claudio's speech:

Ay, but to die and go we know not where...
To bathe in fiery floods, or to reside
In thrilling region of thick-ribbed ice...

and so on.

(Hmmm... Did Shakespeare know The Inferno? Oops, sorry, wrong thread!)

She then comments, "Hyperbole. Big time."

Reading the speech plopped onto the page as the two have done I 
suddenlyrealized what I was reminded of:

Oh bid me leap...
 From off the battlements of any tower,
Or walk in thievish ways, or bid me lurk
Where serpents are; chain me with roaring bears
Or hide me nightly in a charnel house,
O'er covered quite with dead men's rattling bones,
With reeky shanks and yellow chapless skulls,
Or bid me go into a new-made grave,
And hide me with a dead man in his shroud....

and also

Oh if I wake, shall I not be distraught
Environed with all these hideous fears
And madly play with my forefathers' joints
And pluck the mangled <name excised> from his shroud
And in this rage, with some great kinsman's bone,
As with a club dash out my desperate brains?

I'm sure most of you recognize the source: someone who "hath not seen 
the change of 14 years"-someone not even, in her father's estimation 
"ripe to be a bride"-

Who is more likely to be hyperbolic than an adolescent?

I think Claudio has more in common with Juliet (and Romeo, and Mercutio) 
than with the sober-sided adults of Shakespeare's world.

Mari Bonomi

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From: 		Larry Weiss <
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Date: 		Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 12:01:39 -0400
Subject: 16.1601 Performing Angelo
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1601 Performing Angelo

Abigail Quart regards Claudio's expressed fear of dying and death as 
"hyperbole" and concludes that he is not a committed Christian. 
Hyperbolic to be sure, but no more so than the images of hell offered up 
in Sunday sermons.  It is the very hyperbole that convinces me that 
Claudio does share common religious notions.

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From: 		Larry Weiss <
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Date: 		Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 12:06:05 -0400
Subject: 16.1601 Performing Angelo
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1601 Performing Angelo

 >my theory sits comfortably astride Occam's Razor

What an image!  Comfortably?

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