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Hamlet an Allegory
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1626  Monday, 26 September 2005

[1] 	From: 	John W. Kennedy <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 18:46:49 -0400
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1604 Hamlet an Allegory

[2] 	From: 	Gabriel Egan <
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	Date: 	Monday, 26 Sep 2005 09:05:22 +0100
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1604 Hamlet an Allegory


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From: 		John W. Kennedy <
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Date: 		Saturday, 24 Sep 2005 18:46:49 -0400
Subject: 16.1604 Hamlet an Allegory
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1604 Hamlet an Allegory

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 >Gabriel Egan:
 >
 >>"If the Round or any other Officer come to search to watch &
 >>Sentinels, when he doth first heare or see them approch, let him
 >>so soone as he doth perceive them, demand with a lowd voice,
 >>Qui va la? Who goes there?"
 >
 >I've seen this before, but found it less than useful because I find
 >the first "he" to be decidedly ambiguous. Ambiguous to the point
 >that I'm not completely sure which side Gabriel is arguing here.
 >
 >I think that "he" most likely refers to the sentinel, who's standing
 >still. On hearing the approach of the officer making the rounds,
 >the sentinel should say "who's there?"

Precisely how is "he" to refer to "them", the "Sentinels"?

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From: 		Gabriel Egan <
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Date: 		Monday, 26 Sep 2005 09:05:22 +0100
Subject: 16.1604 Hamlet an Allegory
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1604 Hamlet an Allegory

Steve Roth writes

 >>>"If the Round or any other Officer come to search to watch &
 >>>Sentinels, when he doth first heare or see them approch, let him
 >>>so soone as he doth perceive them, demand with a lowd voice,
 >>>Qui va la? Who goes there?"
 >
 >I've seen this before, but found it less than useful because I find the
 >first "he" to be decidedly ambiguous.

I see the problem. I read "them" referring to the plural "Sentinels" and 
"he" as "the Round or any other Officer", but Steve is right that the 
pronouns could (with only a little grammatical error) apply the other 
way round.

Privately, Charles Edelman provides a different reason to think the 
'breaking of protocol' commonplace is mistaken.  By 1.1.8 Francisco has 
been relieved, and yet he cries "Stand! Who's there?" to the approaching 
Horatio and Marcellus. If only the sentry officially on duty should make 
the challenge, Barnardo ought (as Charles puts it) to "pipe in with 
'Hey! That's my job!'" They're jittery, yes, but military protocol 
hasn't broken down.

Gabriel Egan

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