The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1417  Monday, 29 August 2005

[1] 	From: 	Terence Hawkes <
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	Date: 	Friday, 26 Aug 2005 13:00:57 -0400
	Subj: 	SHK 16.1408 Comment

[2] 	From: 	Bill Arnold <
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	Date: 	Friday, 26 Aug 2005 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1408 Comment

[3] 	From: 	Steve Roth <
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	Date: 	Friday, 26 Aug 2005 15:33:38 -0700
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[4] 	From: 	Stefan Andreas Sture <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 27 Aug 2005 10:35:30 +0200
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From: 		Terence Hawkes <
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Date: 		Friday, 26 Aug 2005 13:00:57 -0400
Subject: Comment
Comment: 	SHK 16.1408 Comment

Florence Amit's hand-wringing is unimpressive. The 'atmosphere of 
dueling and wounding' she deplores in SHAKSPER is part of the abrasive 
character of healthy critical debate. We need more, not less of it.  No 
wonder the young turn to the appalling Bob Geldof.

T. Hawkes

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From: 		Bill Arnold <
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Date: 		Friday, 26 Aug 2005 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 16.1408 Comment
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1408 Comment

Louis W. Thompson writes, "I don't think 'sensitivity' and gender are 
correlated.  I once heard a Hollywood starlet screaming in the hall at 
Warner Bros: Waddaya mean I'm not sensitive. I'm as DAMNED SENSITIVE as 
anyone else.  Do you HEAR THAT??!!"

Hear, hear.  But of course.  Golda Meir and Iron Lady Thatcher put all 
that to rest.  Civility, as a word, absolutely irrevocably knows no 
gender. Frankly, my dear, as Rhett Butler put it, putting the final 
exclamation point on *the point* of the title Gone With The Wind, nobody 
gives a damn about opposing points of view, anyway.  Some confuse 
disagreement per se with uncivility.  I do not.

Then of course you can go back in time to Cleopatra and any number of 
power ladies of the realms whose uncivil actions put to rest the biting 
comments of uncivil words.  See:

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenshistory1.html

Again, I reiterate that I do not find Hardy's list to be anything other 
than the finest damn list online.  Period.  I cannot be anymore civil 
than that.  Trust me on this.  There are some lists out there that would 
make war seem like a walk in the park.  A list is for the sharing of 
information.  A list about a man who is credited with three dozen plays 
and scores of sonnets and quadratrillion writings, about them and his 
bio, is sure to step on somebody's pet theory, left and right.  So, let 
us not confuse disagreement with uncivility.  None of us want this list 
to degenerate to yes men and yes women.

When in doubt: find the *delete* button and move on.

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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From: 		Steve Roth <
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Date: 		Friday, 26 Aug 2005 15:33:38 -0700
Subject: 16.1408 Comment
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1408 Comment

<QUOTE>
I proposed to write a newspaper column, "This Week in Hamlet." The idea 
was to share with public audiences, and allow them to enjoy, the huge 
diversity of interpretation, staged and written, re. our hero [or 
heroes, Hamlet and author], and to enlarge awareness of some of the fine 
points in the humanities that most of my colleagues take for granted but 
most of the public is innocent of. [And are still innocent of.] The 
column would also list current Hamlet and other Shakespeare productions, 
films, etc., anything: the central play, both a taking-off point and a 
"coming back to" point for dialogue between literati and newspaper 
audience. A celebration of its depth & light.
<END QUOTE>

Time catches up. These days I think that's called a "blog." Go for it!

Steve
http://princehamlet.com

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From: 		Stefan Andreas Sture <
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Date: 		Saturday, 27 Aug 2005 10:35:30 +0200
Subject: 16.1408 Comment
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1408 Comment

Ladies,
"Know thou this: that men
Are as the time is."

Yours,
Stefan A. Sture

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