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Lucrece Variants
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1176  Monday, 4 July 2005

From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Saturday, 2 Jul 2005 05:32:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 16.11648 Lucrece Variants
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.11648 Lucrece Variants

 >>About 18 months ago, we had a
 >discussion on this list about Richard, Duke of Gloucester's lines, "I am
 >determined to prove a villain/ And hate the idle pleasures of these
 >days." I don't know of any difficulties involving variants with these
 >lines, but the meaning (as was then discussed) varies greatly: "I am
 >determined" can mean "I intend to" and "I am made to." For my teaching
 >of the play, that was a useful discussion.

I recall this discussion very well, as I initiated it.  But the question
did not depend on variant texts.  The question was how "determined"
should be understood, not whether some other word should be substituted.
  Perhaps the classic case of variants is the Indian/Judean dilemma in
Othello. Of course, no essential theme in the play depends on the
outcome of that question.

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