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New and Improved Lear
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1118  Monday, 20 June 2005

[1]     From:   Stephen C. Rose <
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        Date:   Saturday, 18 Jun 2005 17:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1110 New and Improved Lear

[2]     From:   William Godshalk <
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        Date:   Sunday, 19 Jun 2005 12:22:53 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1110 New and Improved Lear

[3]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Sunday, 19 Jun 2005 03:09:36 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1110 New and Improved Lear


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From:           Stephen C. Rose <
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Date:           Saturday, 18 Jun 2005 17:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 16.1110 New and Improved Lear
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1110 New and Improved Lear

Hokay, true colors time. I am not a rabbi or a pro theologue though some
might say I have been the latter and I did receive a graduate degree
from a theological seminary where Paul Tillich and Reinhold Niebuhr (and
more pertinently to WS, Tom  Driver) were faculty members.

David's statement which I quote below is rather broad because the New
Testament and the Synoptic Gospels-which may be taken as the closest
thing we have to what Jesus may have believed and taught-is not that
fixated on parental obedience. Jesus is not averse to leaving ones
family and shaking the dust from your feet if obedience to the one he
called Abba is the issue.  Such obedience tends toward iconoclasm, a
certain moral perfectionism and behavior sufficiently anti-authoritarian
to incur the enmity of priestly and secular authorities. Not to mention
the suspicion and consternation of one's immediate family.

David wrote:

"Interestingly, the Bible considers honoring parents as a high
principle, a principle so valuable that it is deemed powerful enough to
gain reward in this life by lengthening life on earth."

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From:           William Godshalk <
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Date:           Sunday, 19 Jun 2005 12:22:53 -0400
Subject: 16.1110 New and Improved Lear
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1110 New and Improved Lear

 >"Cordelia would seem to have two choices: tell lies in order to flatter
 >her father with a lot of phony dutifulness; or tell the truth."

She had at least one other choice. She could have run over to him (thus
disrupting the outrageous ceremony), thrown her arms around his neck,
given him a kiss, and said: "I love you, daddy."

I think the old boy would have taken that hug and kiss as positive
affirmation that Cordelia loves him most of all. I would.

Happy Father's Day.

Bill

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Sunday, 19 Jun 2005 03:09:36 -0400
Subject: 16.1110 New and Improved Lear
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1110 New and Improved Lear

 >To say that Cordelia, by not honoring her father,
 >contributes to her fate is not to say that she was totally responsible
 >for her fate.

This begs the question mooted by D. Bloom.  Is refusal to flatter the
same as dishonoring?  Does the fifth commandment trump the tenth?

 >Cordelia is such that
 >she cannot bend. She is not one who can step aside from an oncoming
 >sixteen wheel truck when she has the traffic lights in her favor.

This is correct.  It is pigheadedness, not disrespect, that flaws
Cordelia.  And, of course, in classically ironic style, Lear suffers
from the same fault.

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