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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1121  Tuesday, 21 June 2005

[1]     From:   Bob Lapides <
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        Date:   Monday, 20 Jun 2005 10:45:47 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1113 Designations

[2]     From:   John Briggs <
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        Date:   Monday, 20 Jun 2005 15:51:56 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1113 Designations

[3]     From:   Bill Arnold <
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        Date:   Monday, 20 Jun 2005 08:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1113 Designations

[4]     From:   Martin Steward <
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        Date:   Monday, 20 Jun 2005 19:31:47 +0100
        Subj:   SHK 16.1113 Designations


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From:           Bob Lapides <
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Date:           Monday, 20 Jun 2005 10:45:47 EDT
Subject: 16.1113 Designations
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1113 Designations

I want to say that I was very gratified to see Hardy's suggestion that
the term "Hebrew Scriptures" be used instead of "Old Testament."  It
cannot be overstated how irritating it is to Jews to hear their Bible
referred to as merely the preliminary, superseded part of the Christian
Bible. Hardy's elevated consciousness on this issue warms my heart.

Bob Lapides

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From:           John Briggs <
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Date:           Monday, 20 Jun 2005 15:51:56 +0100
Subject: 16.1113 Designations
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1113 Designations

Hardy M. Cook wrote:

 >As for Peter Bridgman's question:
 >
 >Fine, but where does that leave the deutero-canonical books, i.e.
 >the books that appeared in the Greek version of the Jewish Bible
 >but not in the Hebrew original?  These books are Jewish but not
 >Hebrew, and they were written a long time before Christianity.
 >
 >I use the term Apocrypha to refer to these works: ". . . a body of
 >revelatory writing produced in Jewish circles between 250 BCE and 200
 >CE and subsequently taken up and perpetuated by Christianity"...

I'm sorry, Hardy, but you are wrong here - the Roman Catholics don't
accept the term "Apocrypha".  The term "deutero-canonical" was invented
as one that everyone could agree upon!

John Briggs

[Editor's Note: Correction accepted.]

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From:           Bill Arnold <
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Date:           Monday, 20 Jun 2005 08:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 16.1113 Designations
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1113 Designations

Hardy M. Cook writes,"However, Job is surely not a work of Christian
Scriptures; it is from the Tanakh (more precisely the Kethuvim), Hebrew
Scriptures."

I do not believe we are splitting hairs here.  Job as cited from the KJV
has many who allege it stops at any number of Bible stations going back
to the Septuagint.

The Book of Job came from the Septuagint which according to history was
a document translated by 70 Hebrew scholars who used their Hebrew texts.
  I cannot read Hebrew and cannot testify to what you state with
conviction.  It seems perfectly fine to me to cite Job from the Old
Testament of the KJV because that is where I find it, and although
others-maybe you and David Basch read Hebrew-find it elsewhere, I would
be remiss in citing a text I have not read, nor understand, nor am sure
is the same as the text I do cite.  Finally, I assure you that
Christians consider the Old Testament as half of their Judaic-Christian
Christian Scripture.  It resides in the first half of the KJV, and
always shall as a monument of the Shakespearean Age.

With every good wish,
Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

[Editor's Note: For the record, I do not read Hebrew (Aramaic or Greek),
but I have read the Jewish Publication Society's translation of the
Tanakh, according to the traditional Hebrew text, as well as a long list
of other early-modern and modern translation into English including the
Jerusalem Bible.]

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From:           Martin Steward <
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Date:           Monday, 20 Jun 2005 19:31:47 +0100
Subject: Designations
Comment:        SHK 16.1113 Designations

What exactly does Bill Arnold mean by "Christology"...?

It's always puzzled me.

m

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