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Help with the Sonnets
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1159  Wednesday, 29 June 2005

[1]     From:   Peter Bridgman <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 15:05:28 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets

[2]     From:   Joseph Egert <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 17:56:38 +0000
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[3]     From:   Stefan Andreas Sture <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 20:06:41 +0200
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[4]     From:   Victor Reed <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 18:06:42 -0400
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From:           Peter Bridgman <
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Date:           Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 15:05:28 +0100
Subject: 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets

Marvin Krims asks ...

 >Can I anyone help me with locating the Sonnet in which Shakespeare
 >speaks of his own infidelity? I just briefly tried and failed. Perhaps I
 >just read past it or is this all just a figment of my imagination?

Try again, and look out for the words 'my mistress' in sonnets 127 to 154.

Peter Bridgman

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From:           Joseph Egert <
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Date:           Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 17:56:38 +0000
Subject: 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets

For a Sonnet "in which Shakespeare speaks of his own infidelity" and
then promptly forgives himself, check out Sonnet 121.

Joe Egert

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From:           Stefan Andreas Sture <
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Date:           Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 20:06:41 +0200
Subject: 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets

I'm not sure, but you might be looking for 109 and/or 110.

Discuss these or any other sonnets at
http://www.quicktopic.com/31/H/4tmfaY2kjZd

Yours,
Stefan Andreas Sture

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From:           Victor Reed <
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Date:           Tuesday, 28 Jun 2005 18:06:42 -0400
Subject: 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1155 Help with the Sonnets

It's hard to answer this before we know what bond Marvin is thinking of
when he speaks of infidelity. Certainly infidelity to Anne Shakespeare
is implied by Sonnet 129 ("Th'expense of spirit in a waste of shame").
Infidelity seems in no way relevant to Shakespeare's relationship with
the Willful woman of Sonnet 135.  Infidelity to the beloved young man
who is the center of the sonnets is the interesting case, but there we
have no explicit lines that I know of, only clouded references as in 88:
"With mine own weakness being best acquainted/ Upon thy part I can set
down a story/  Of faults concealed, wherein I am attainted."  What those
faults were we cannot even guess.

Victor Reed

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