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no country for old men?
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 17.0134  Wednesday, 8 March 2006

[1] 	From: 	James Bromley <
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	Date: 	Tuesday, 07 Mar 2006 10:12:08 -0600
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 17.0130 no country for old men?

[2] 	From: 	V. K. Inman <
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	Date: 	Tuesday, 07 Mar 2006 11:49:12 -0500
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 17.0130 no country for old men?

[3] 	From: 	David Evett <
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	Date: 	Tuesday, 7 Mar 2006 16:11:29 -0500
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[4] 	From: 	Marvin Bennet Krims <
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	Date: 	Wednesday, 8 Mar 2006 08:55:27 -0500
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From: 		James Bromley <
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Date: 		Tuesday, 07 Mar 2006 10:12:08 -0600
Subject: 17.0130 no country for old men?
Comment: 	Re: SHK 17.0130 no country for old men?

One of my graduate student colleagues, Tony Ellis (currently at Western 
Michigan University), wrote a dissertation on aging in Renaissance 
drama.  It may eventually become a book, but it is available as a 
dissertation.

Regards,
Jim Bromley

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From: 		V. K. Inman <
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Date: 		Tuesday, 07 Mar 2006 11:49:12 -0500
Subject: 17.0130 no country for old men?
Comment: 	Re: SHK 17.0130 no country for old men?

Peter Bridgman

 >>Does anyone have ideas about Shakespeare's own attitudes about aging
 >and the aged.
 >>
 >" ... second childishness and mere oblivion,
 >Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything"?

Sounds more like my last trip to the beach!

V. K. Inman

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From: 		David Evett <
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Date: 		Tuesday, 7 Mar 2006 16:11:29 -0500
Subject: 17.0130 no country for old men?
Comment: 	Re: SHK 17.0130 no country for old men?

 >" ... second childishness and mere oblivion,
 >Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything"?

Peter Bridgman wants us to accept Jaques as Shakespeare's mouthpiece. 
He's usually played on the stage as a grave man of early middle age 
(Look, Ma! A pundit!), but I've always thought the 7 Ages pretty 
sophomoric, and like to imagine him as 19, and just back from the  Grand 
Tour, where he talked for 6 minutes in Padua with a humanist  and 9 
minutes in Paris with somebody who had talked to somebody who  had 
talked to Montaigne.

Punditically,
Dave Evett

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From: 		Marvin Bennet Krims <
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Date: 		Wednesday, 8 Mar 2006 08:55:27 -0500
Subject: 17.0130 no country for old men?
Comment: 	RE: SHK 17.0130 no country for old men?

Thanks, Peter for that quote from As You Like It.
	
Actually, I was fishing for WS's attitudes toward his own aging as 
revealed in the Sonnets, written long before he was sans everything. If 
the Sonnets were indeed written for his "priuate friends," not meant for 
circulation, what can we say about his attitudes about his own 
presumably minimal aging?
	
Marvin.
	
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