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Henry IV, Part 1 Query
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 17.0226  Monday, 27 March 2006

[1] 	From: 	Carol Morley <
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	Date: 	Friday, 24 Mar 2006 19:51:11 +0000
	Subj: 	RE: SHK 17.0211 Henry IV, Part 1 Query

[2] 	From: 	Marvin Bennet Krims <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 25 Mar 2006 08:21:40 -0500
	Subj: 	RE: SHK 17.0211 Henry IV, Part 1 Query


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From: 		Carol Morley <
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Date: 		Friday, 24 Mar 2006 19:51:11 +0000
Subject: 17.0211 Henry IV, Part 1 Query
Comment: 	RE: SHK 17.0211 Henry IV, Part 1 Query

Michael Luskin <
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 >Act III, scene 1 has always seemed curious.  The conspirators meet,
 >among other things, to divide up England, plan move rivers to makes
 >things more fair, and so forth.  From the very start, Hotspur is rude
 >and aggressive towards his allies, and says things that might well
 >provoke a duel, or at least a crack in the alliance.
 >
 >For example, when Glendower says that he can call spirits from the
 >vasty deep, Hostspur's funny rejoinder deserves a cup of coffee in his
 >face.
 >
 >Why is Hotspur so rude and unpleasant, why do the others act like
 >anything but allies, why don't they discuss strategy a bit?

I don't know how 'academic' Hardy will vote your question, but I think 
it's an interesting one. The first thing that occurs to me is that 
dividing a kingdom three ways is never a good start to any Shakespearean 
enterprise.... that the allies are all mistrustful of each other, uneasy 
with their prospects and therefore blustering. Add in some 
racial/regional tensions, with Glendower trying to Welsh out alpha-male 
the Northumbrian cock of the walk, and there's bound to be a 
territorial, testosterone-charged battle of egos. But honestly, also, 
Harry Percy has a good point in calling the druid-magus wannabe's bluff; 
trying to discuss an armed insurrection with him one minute, the next 
he's channeling Derren Brown (or David Copperfield), I think, for 
American readers.

When the scene is played for maximum regional accent diversity (with 
Mortimer RP into the mix), I think it provides a wonderful collision of 
voices into the bargain.

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From: 		Marvin Bennet Krims <
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Date: 		Saturday, 25 Mar 2006 08:21:40 -0500
Subject: 17.0211 Henry IV, Part 1 Query
Comment: 	RE: SHK 17.0211 Henry IV, Part 1 Query

When Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin met to divide the post War War II 
world between them, I suspect the dialogue was quite similar in tone.
	
Marvin Krims

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