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Henry IV, Part 1 Query
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 17.0232  Tuesday, 28 March 2006

[1] 	From: 	Jonathan Hope <
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	Date: 	Monday, 27 Mar 2006 17:39:10 +0100
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1: accents and dialect

[2] 	From: 	H. R. Greenberg <
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	Date: 	Monday, 27 Mar 2006 21:30:48 EST
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1 Query

[3] 	From: 	Ida Gaskin <
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	Date: 	Tuesday, 28 Mar 2006 15:02:54 +1200
	Subj: 	RE: SHK 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1 Query


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From: 		Jonathan Hope <
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Date: 		Monday, 27 Mar 2006 17:39:10 +0100
Subject: 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1: accents and dialect
Comment: 	Re: SHK 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1: accents and dialect

Carol Morley makes the following very interesting point about the scene:

 >When the scene is played for maximum regional accent diversity (with
 >Mortimer RP into the mix), I think it provides a wonderful collision of
 >voices into the bargain.

Aside from wanting to make the pedantic point that the concept of RP is 
anachronistic for Early Modern English, I found this very suggestive. 
1Henry 4 could be seen as part of a rash of 'dialect' plays Shakespeare 
writes in a three-year period at the end of the 1590s: 1Henry 4, 2Henry 
4, Henry 5, Merry Wives.

I also find it interesting that Shakespeare most often associates 
dialect with national rather than regional identity.  As Paula Blank 
notes in her book (*Broken English*), there is surprisingly little 
direct representation of regional dialect in Shakespeare (and I think in 
Early Modern drama generally).

Jonathan Hope
Strathclyde University, Glasgow

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From: 		H. R. Greenberg <
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Date: 		Monday, 27 Mar 2006 21:30:48 EST
Subject: 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1 Query
Comment: 	Re: SHK 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1 Query

I believe there was some historical evidence of animosity between 
Hotspur and Glendower isn't there something in the chronicles about 
this?  hr greenberg md

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From: 		Ida Gaskin <
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Date: 		Tuesday, 28 Mar 2006 15:02:54 +1200
Subject: 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1 Query
Comment: 	RE: SHK 17.0226 Henry IV, Part 1 Query

I can't see any difficulty with the exchange between Hotspur and 
Glendower.  Hotspur's behaviour is all of a piece with his "I will pluck 
honour" etc in Act 3 Sc3 when Worcester is trying to get him to discuss 
a rising, and with his refusal to delay battle until Glendower and 
Northumberland have time to collect their forces. And I can't agree with 
Carol Morley' dismissive "wannabe" applied to Glendower. After all, he 
had routed an English army and united the Welsh behind his banner (no 
mean feat). And the musicians did play when Lady Mortimer sang.

What I find more worthy of comment is that Shakespeare could apparently 
call on two Welsh-speaking players.

Cymru am byth!
Ida Gaskin.

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