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The Archbishop Wasn't There? So Forth.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 17.0948  Wednesday, 25 October 2006

From: 		Andrew Wilson <
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Date: 		Monday, 23 Oct 2006 19:13:37 -0700
Subject: 17.0923 The Archbishop Wasn't There? So Forth.
Comment: 	Re: SHK 17.0923 The Archbishop Wasn't There? So Forth.

The Archbishop cites two instances where the throne of France descended 
through the female.  The first, King Pepin, deposed the rightful lineal 
heir Childeric:

        King Pepin, which deposed Childeric,
        Did as heir general, being descended
        Of Blithild, which was daughter to King Clothair,
        Make claim and title to the crown of France.

The second, Hugh Capet, usurped the crown from the rightful lineal heir 
Charles the Duke of Lorraine:

        Hugh Capet also, who usurped the crown
        Of Charles the Duke of Lorraine, sole heir male
        Of the true line and stock of Charles the Great ...

It is easy to skip over those two words "deposed" and "usurped".

The only two examples the Archbishop cites to justify Henry V's upcoming 
war for the throne of France, are cases where the rightful, sitting 
monarch was ousted.  These are not cases where the last legitimate male 
monarch has recently died and the next legitimate heir happens to be a 
woman or her male descendant.  The Archbishop doesn't dare cite examples 
where the crown of France could have descended via a female but didn't 
because the custom in France has always been to follow exclusively male 
lines.

The Archbishop's real message seems to be "So you want to grab the 
throne by force, and claim your rightful descent via your great, great 
grandmother.  Well, there is a precedent for that sort of thing."

Andrew Wilson

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