The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0079  Thursday, 1 February 2007

[1] 	From: 	Bob Grumman <
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	Date: 	Monday, 29 Jan 2007 13:32:20 -0500
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 18.0062 Thorpe Query

[2] 	From: 	Anthony Martin <
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	Date: 	Tuesday, 30 Jan 2007 18:20:14 +0900
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 18.0062 Thorpe Query

[3] 	From: 	Peter Holland <
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	Date: 	Tuesday, 30 Jan 2007 10:21:48 -0500
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 18.0062 Thorpe Query


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From: 		Bob Grumman <
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Date: 		Monday, 29 Jan 2007 13:32:20 -0500
Subject: 18.0062 Thorpe Query
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0062 Thorpe Query

 >Somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind, I have a memory
 >of a comment by one of Shakespeare's contemporaries that
 >Shakespeare was troubled by Thorpe's unauthorized publication
 >of the Sonnets. But I can't confirm this.

I'm sure I'll be joined by many other SHAKSPEReans in suspecting you're 
thinking of Thomas Heywood's writing that he knew Shakespeare was 
disturbed by William Jaggard's publication of poems by Heywood (in The 
Passionate Pilgrim) and attaching Shakespeare's name to them.  We have 
no record of what Shakespeare thought of Thorpe's publication of the 
Sonnets, nor is it established that the publication was unauthorized, I 
don't think.

--Bob Grumman

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From: 		Anthony Martin <
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Date: 		Tuesday, 30 Jan 2007 18:20:14 +0900
Subject: 18.0062 Thorpe Query
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0062 Thorpe Query

I think Marvin Krims is thinking of William Jaggard's pirate printing of 
two of the Sonnets, and three sonnets from LLL, as part of The 
Passionate Pilgrim (1599, and 1612), along with a number of other poems 
(including Marlowe's Passionate Shepherd), the whole work being 
attributed to Shakespeare. In the edition of 1612, Jaggard had expanded 
the slim volume with some works by Heywood, who made his objection to 
the piracy in the preface to An Apology for Actors. Heywood also 
describes Shakespeare as being "much offended" at the attribution.

Anthony Martin

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From: 		Peter Holland <
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Date: 		Tuesday, 30 Jan 2007 10:21:48 -0500
Subject: 18.0062 Thorpe Query
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0062 Thorpe Query

Is this a garbled memory of Heywood's comment on the Jaggard publication 
of The Passionate Pilgrim?

In 1599 William Jaggard published the second edition of the collection 
of poems called The Passionate Pilgrim (the date of the first edition is 
uncertain) which the title-page attributed to Shakespeare, much to 
Shakespeare's annoyance that Jaggard, as Thomas Heywood noted, 
'altogether unknowne to him . presumed to make so bold with his name' 
(see Schoenbaum, William Shakespeare: A Documentary Life, p. 219).

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