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Wordless Macbeth
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0048  Monday, 22 January 2007

[1] 	From: 	Stuart Manger <
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	Date: 	Friday, 19 Jan 2007 19:17:36 +0000 (GMT)
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

[2] 	From: 	Cary Mazer <
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	Date: 	Friday, 19 Jan 2007 14:44:10 -0500
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

[3] 	From: 	Thomas M. Lahey <
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	Date: 	Friday, 19 Jan 2007 22:35:18 -0800
	Subj: 	SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

[4] 	From: 	Vili Maunula <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 11:07:28 +0100
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[5] 	From: 	Joseph Egert <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 19:11:47 +0000
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 18.0037 Wordless Macbeth

[6] 	From: 	Stephen Buhler <
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	Date: 	Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 22:54:46 -0600
	Subj: 	Asta Nielsen's *Hamlet* in Color

[7] 	From: 	Charles Weinstein <
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	Date: 	Sunday, 21 Jan 2007 11:07:33 -0500
	Subj: 	Wordless Shakespeare

[8] 	From: 	Cheryl Newton <
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	Date: 	Sunday, 21 Jan 2007 16:18:37 -0500
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From: 		Stuart Manger <
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Date: 		Friday, 19 Jan 2007 19:17:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

[a] In signed productions, the deaf DO get the words. They may not 
physically hear them, but words are there being conveyed at stage side 
or wherever.

[b] in the 'Mousetrap', Hamlet is interpreting and explaining / 
commentating all the time IN WORDS because he does not trust the mere 
dumb show to convey the import.

[c] silent Shakespeare films almost always ( always? ) had sub-titles 
every few seconds, usually quotes from Shak text. So again, the words 
are there in sketch form, yes, perhaps as aides-memoire. But there.

[d] I simply do not see for the life of me how a wordless production of 
a Shakespeare play is or can ever be an act of 'aesthetic fidelity'. The 
lack of psychological, aesthetic subtlety and depth simply emasculates 
the original of all meaningful texture. What you see may be a supreme 
balletic, choreographed representation of the narrative line, but since 
when has Shakespeare been merely about 'story'?

I am still totally amazed, and refer posters to Norman Hinton's last 
message!

Stuart Manger

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From: 		Cary Mazer <
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Date: 		Friday, 19 Jan 2007 14:44:10 -0500
Subject: 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

Norman Hinton wrote:

 >I guess coming next are "Beethoven without the Music",
 >and "Monet in the Dark", eh ?

What I'm really worried about is "Shakespeare not in the theatre."

Cary

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From: 		Thomas M. Lahey <
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Date: 		Friday, 19 Jan 2007 22:35:18 -0800
Subject: Wordless Macbeth
Comment: 	SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

Artists in all media (painters, directors, authors, teachers, composers, 
choreographers, critics, SHAKSPER commentators, ...) have presented 
interpretations of Shakespeare's works.  Sometimes, by studying these 
alternatives we see something new, resulting in greater appreciation of 
the particular Shakespeare work the artist has interpreted.  Other times 
we disagree, can't understand, or otherwise dismiss the artist's point(s).

Is it Shakespeare?  Well, if S hadn't done his thing, the derivative 
wouldn't exist.

I appreciated watching the video.

Stay healthy,
Tom

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From: 		Vili Maunula <
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Date: 		Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 11:07:28 +0100
Subject: 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0045 Wordless Macbeth

In connection with the recent discussion on silent Shakespeare, list 
members may be interested to know that the Berlin film festival has just 
announced their plans to screen a restored colour version of "Hamlet" 
from 1921, starring (rather curiously) Asta Nielsen in the title role.

The film, shot in black and white, was apparently originally shown in 
colour (having been coloured in post-production), but this coloured 
version was lost, and only rediscovered recently.

Here is a link to the press release: 
http://www.berlinale.de/en/presse/pressemitteilungen/alle/Alle-Detail_3330.html

All the best,
Vili Maunula

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From: 		Joseph Egert <
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Date: 		Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 19:11:47 +0000
Subject: 18.0037 Wordless Macbeth
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0037 Wordless Macbeth

Terence Hawkes asks how can a wordless production of MACBETH profoundly 
explore
Shakespearean art.

Is this the fruit of presentism?

Joe Egert

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From: 		Stephen Buhler <
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Date: 		Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 22:54:46 -0600
Subject: 	Asta Nielsen's *Hamlet* in Color

 From the Berlin International Film Festival, the Berlinale --
Berlinale 2007: Special Events of the Retrospective and Homage

The Berlinale and the Deutsche Kinemathek - Museum f

 

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