2007

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0629  Thursday, 20 September 2007

[1] 	From: 		John W. Kennedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Wednesday, 19 Sep 2007 09:53:35 -0400
	Subj: 		Re: SHK 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

[2] 	From: 		Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Wednesday, 19 Sep 2007 12:45:38 -0400
	Subj: 		Re: SHK 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

[3] 	From: 		Robert Projansky <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Wednesday, 19 Sep 2007 22:47:39 -0700
	Subj: 		Re: SHK 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare


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From: 		John W. Kennedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Wednesday, 19 Sep 2007 09:53:35 -0400
Subject: 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

Robert Projansky <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

 >Re Innogen/Imogen, is it not possible that in setting the
 >type for Imogen the compositor simply used "nn" to make
 >an "m"? I may be wrong, but I think that somewhere in my
 >FF facsimile I've seen "vv" used to make a "w".

But m is not and never has been conceptualized as a double n. Moreover, 
the name "Innogen" occurs near the top of the page, where the 
compositors are not likely to have run out of m's.

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From: 		Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Wednesday, 19 Sep 2007 12:45:38 -0400
Subject: 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

Personally, I can't see what difference it makes whether she is Imogen 
or Innogen.  But if the compositor accidentally inserted an upside down 
"u" in the forme, then she is "Ivogen" and that resonates with 
Agamemnon's daughter.

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From: 		Robert Projansky <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Wednesday, 19 Sep 2007 22:47:39 -0700
Subject: 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0624 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

As I am not a scholar I prefer to enjoy these kinds of wars from the 
sidelines, but I am puzzled why Prof. Drakakis says, "If we modernise 
the spelling to give the reading 'Masters of passion' then obviously 
this doesn't make sense."

Here it is in context in the FF, with 'Masters' for Maisters':

You'l aske me why I rather choose to haue
A weight of carrion flesh, then to receiue
Three thousand Ducats? Ile not answer that:
But say it is my humor; Is it answered?
What if my house be troubled with a Rat,
And I be pleas'd to giue ten thousand Ducates
To haue it bain'd? What, are you answer'd yet?
Some men there are loue not a gaping Pigge:
Some that are mad, if they behold a Cat:
And others, when the bag-pipe sings i'th nose,
Cannot containe their Vrine for affection.
Masters of passion swayes it to the moode
Of what it likes or loaths, now for your answer:
As there is no firme reason to be rendred
Why he cannot abide a gaping Pigge?
Why he a harmlesse necessarie Cat?
Why he a woollen bag-pipe: but of force
Must yeeld to such ineuitable shame,
As to offend himselfe being offended:
So can I giue no reason, nor I will not,
More then a lodg'd hate, and a certaine loathing
I beare Anthonio, that I follow thus
A loosing suite against him? Are you answered?

It seems to me that phrase means in this context that:

Masters made of (or which are our) [inexplicable] passions determine our 
mood
According to what [stimuli] they like or loathe,

Am I wrongly making sense of this?

Best to all,
Bob Projansky

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