2007

WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0510  Thursday, 9 August 2007

[1] 	From: 		Sid Stark <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Wednesday, 8 Aug 2007 11:10:39 EDT
	Subj: 		Re: WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

[2] 	From: 		Alan Pierpoint <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Wednesday, 08 Aug 2007 11:28:26 -0400
	Subj: 		Re: WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare


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From: 		Sid Stark <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Wednesday, 8 Aug 2007 11:10:39 EDT
Subject: 18.0503 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0503 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

Great article!  For my students, many of whom need to know why they 
need to know something before they will learn it (especially when they 
see it as  far outside their personal frames of reference, the way many 
of them see  Shakespeare), this will be required reading..........

Sid Stark

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From: 		Alan Pierpoint <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Wednesday, 08 Aug 2007 11:28:26 -0400
Subject: 18.0503 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0503 WashPost: Ourselves in Shakespeare

Or, as Nigel Cliff concludes his book "The Shakespeare Riots": 
"Shakespeare had served his purpose, but it was a purpose no other 
storyteller had ever served. Once a voice carried a people across a 
continent and helped forge a brave new world. No other writer has been 
so powerful, and none will ever be again." Stirring words even out of 
context; inspiring when you read the whole book. We fire off paper 
bullets at one another over this and other web lists, but in America in 
1849, they threw bricks and shot each other over Shakespeare. Amazing.

Alan Pierpoint


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Derry Initiative Hamlet

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0509  Thursday, 9 August 2007

From: 		Tanya Gough <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Thursday, 9 Aug 2007 09:08:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 	Derry Initiative Hamlet

The Derry Initiative Hamlet, which screened to great interest at the 
Bermuda SAA conference, can now be viewed in its entirety online at:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8957003244474950410

Enjoy,
Tanya Gough
The Poor Yorick Shakespeare Catalogue
www.bardcentral.com

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Shakespeare Centre Library

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0507  Thursday, 9 August 2007

From: 		Jan Pick <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Thursday, 9 Aug 2007 09:06:29 +0100
Subject: 	Shakespeare Centre Library

To all those out there who have enjoyed the beautiful reading room at 
the Shakespeare Centre, Stratford, UK.  The outgoing Roger Pringle has 
decided as a leaving gift to remove it from student and researchers' use 
and 'bung' us into the incredibly cramped Record Office facilities!

'Cry havoc' all those who want to defend it!

Jan Pick

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TLS 17th August 2007

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0508  Thursday, 9 August 2007

From: 		Julia Crockett <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Thursday, 9 Aug 2007 14:06:59 +0100
Subject: 	TLS 17th August 2007

Dear SHAKSPEReans

The Times Literary Supplement next week - August 17th - is titled 
'Shakespeare'. Might be of interest to members.

Julia

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Just My Imagination

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0506  Wednesday, 8 August 2007

[1] 	From: 		John Wall <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Monday, 06 Aug 2007 10:42:47 -0400
	Subj: 		Re: SHK 18.0502 Just My Imagination

[2] 	From: 		Richard Regan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Tuesday, 07 Aug 2007 00:46:58 -0400
	Subj: 		Re: SHK 18.0502 Just My Imagination

[3] 	From: 		Chris Whatmore <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date: 		Tuesday, 7 Aug 2007 15:18:28 +0100
	Subj: 		Re: Just my imagination


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From: 		John Wall <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Monday, 06 Aug 2007 10:42:47 -0400
Subject: 18.0502 Just My Imagination
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0502 Just My Imagination

My touchstone for the imagination in Shakespeare is Theseus' speech 
about the lunatic, the lover, and the poet. Theseus offers us a range of 
the imagination's possible manifestations:

Such tricks hath strong imagination,
That if it would but apprehend some joy,
It comprehends some bringer of that joy;
Or in the night, imagining some fear,
How easy is a bush supposed a bear!

Clearly, Othello and Leontes in effect make a bush a bear, or a green 
eyed monster, as Bruce Young says, letting their imaginations "get away 
from them," with tragic consequences.

I think I have tended to see the way the imagination can affect 
Shakespeare's lovers and poets in more benign terms, but Theseus seems 
to be more even-handed, or even-handedly apprehensive.

I suspect, for example, that at least some members of Shakespeare's 
original audience might well have viewed the way Romeo and Juliet regard 
each other as being just as excessive or dangerous, or at least as 
socially disruptive, as the way Othello comes to regard Desdemona or 
Leontes to regard Hermione. JNW

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From: 		Richard Regan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Tuesday, 07 Aug 2007 00:46:58 -0400
Subject: 18.0502 Just My Imagination
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0502 Just My Imagination

Antony Sher gives a convincing account of Leontes "morbid jealousy" from 
a psychologist's point of view in the RSC casebook video of The Winter's 
Tale, in which Sher is a tortured Leontes. It's a brilliant production 
with wonderful comedy as well as wrenching scenes of cruelty and loss.

Richard Regan
Fairfield University

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From: 		Chris Whatmore <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Tuesday, 7 Aug 2007 15:18:28 +0100
Subject: 	Re: Just my imagination

Bruce Young wrote:

 >I think Mike Shapiro is looking
 >for characters whose (dramatically represented) imaginations get away
 >from them rather than characters who demonstrate Shakespeare's
 >imagination getting away from him.

Yes, I think you're right: on revisiting the examples in Mike S's 
original post, I can see that I paid rather too much attention to 
Jonson's verdict on WS and not quite enough to Romeo's on Mercutio or 
Theseus's on poets, lovers and madmen.

If we're considering the effects of runaway imaginative powers on 
individual characters, your example of Leontes and his "diseased 
opinion" is spot on. Those who experience the many dreams and visions in 
the plays would also, I'm sure, prove interesting in this regard, 
especially when their dreams turn to nightmares. (Here we might add 
Brutus and King Richard III to Macbeth and the other tragic heroes 
mentioned so far). Even in the comedies, nightmares and madness are 
never far from those with an over-active imagination. To take the 
cruellest case, the fantasies unleashed in Malvolio's mind by the Cs, Us 
and Ts of Maria's letter lead directly to the farcical equivalent of 
Bedlam, from which humiliation he never fully recovers.

cw

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