The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0081 Sunday, 10 February 2008
[1] From: Jan Earl Hammerquist<
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Date: Wednesday, 6 Feb 2008 15:24:17 -0500
Subj: Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
[2] From: Larry Weiss <
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Date: Wednesday, 06 Feb 2008 17:23:41 -0500
Subj: Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
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Date: Thursday, 7 Feb 2008 15:20:32 -0800 (PST)
Subj: Re: SHK 19.0067 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
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From: Jan Earl Hammerquist<
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Date: Wednesday, 6 Feb 2008 15:24:17 -0500
Subject: 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Comment: Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Jennifer Pierce writes:
>Though I think the choice to have Hamlet returning from Wittenberg
>would not be lost on an Elizabethan audience I think it's also
>important to note that Hamlet takes place when the Danes controlled
>England, some several hundred years prior to nuns and monks running
>amok in Germany.
--though jumping o'er times is a staple of Shakespearean poetics.
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From: Larry Weiss <
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Date: Wednesday, 06 Feb 2008 17:23:41 -0500
Subject: 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Comment: Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
>Hamlet takes place when the Danes controlled England, some
>several hundred years prior to nuns and monks running amok
>in Germany.
Claudius purports to send Hamlet to England to collect the long
neglected Danegeld but that, of course, was a ruse. In fact, the Danes
had long abandoned and realistic claim to England by the time of The
Confessor.
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From: Joseph Egert <
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Date: Thursday, 7 Feb 2008 15:20:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 19.0067 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Comment: Re: SHK 19.0067 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Steve Sohmer writes:
>Hamlet is issuing a warning to Polonius via the
>tale of Jeptha-as rendered in both Judges 11:30-40 and in the pious
>chanson: keep your daughter out of harm's way.
Doesn't the Jephtha analogy support the case for Ophelia's virginity?
Joe Egert
[Editor's Note: One of my undergraduate professors, a fine Southern
Gentleman, Professor James G. McManaway, made just such a contention in
"Ophelia and Jephtha's Daughter." _Shakespeare Quarterly_ 21 (1970):
198-200. I was also in his class when he announced that he had uncovered
a discovery about that he later published in "John Shakespeare's
'Spiritual Testament'" _Shakespeare Quarterly_ 18 .3 (1967): 197-205.
But what I shall never forget is the paper I wrote for him as a naive,
dyslexic, undergraduate: I hyphenated (This was the early days of
covered wagons and typewriters - no personal computers for another
fifteen years) the dramatist's name as "Shakes- peare." When he returned
our papers, Dr. McManaway asked me in front of the entire class if I had
typed this paper myself. I shyly said, "Yes." Whereupon this quiet man
raised his voice, slapped my paper down on the desk in front of me and
said in a mocking tone, "The name is 'SHAKE' 'SPEARE' NOT 'Shakes'
'PEARE.'" I was humiliated, but I never made a mistake in hyphenating
this name again. I must add that there was no malice or harmfulness in
his tone; he was clearly enjoying himself, correcting this newly
declared English major. -Hardy]
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