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The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0081  Sunday, 10 February 2008

[1] 	From:	Jan Earl Hammerquist<
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	Date:	Wednesday, 6 Feb 2008 15:24:17 -0500
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii

[2] 	From:	Larry Weiss <
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	Date:	Wednesday, 06 Feb 2008 17:23:41 -0500
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[3] 	From:	Joseph Egert <
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	Date:	Thursday, 7 Feb 2008 15:20:32 -0800 (PST)
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0067 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii


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From:		Jan Earl Hammerquist<
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Date:		Wednesday, 6 Feb 2008 15:24:17 -0500
Subject: 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii

Jennifer Pierce writes:

 >Though I think the choice to have Hamlet returning from Wittenberg
 >would not be lost on an Elizabethan audience I think it's also
 >important to note that Hamlet takes place when the Danes controlled
 >England, some several hundred years prior to nuns and monks running
 >amok in Germany.

--though jumping o'er times is a staple of Shakespearean poetics.

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Date:		Wednesday, 06 Feb 2008 17:23:41 -0500
Subject: 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0073 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii

 >Hamlet takes place when the Danes controlled England, some
 >several hundred years prior to nuns and monks running amok
 >in Germany.

Claudius purports to send Hamlet to England to collect the long 
neglected Danegeld but that, of course, was a ruse. In fact, the Danes 
had long abandoned and realistic claim to England by the time of The 
Confessor.

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Date:		Thursday, 7 Feb 2008 15:20:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 19.0067 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0067 The Pious Chanson in Hamlet II.ii

Steve Sohmer writes:

 >Hamlet is issuing a warning to Polonius via the
 >tale of Jeptha-as rendered in both Judges 11:30-40 and in the pious
 >chanson: keep your daughter out of harm's way.

Doesn't the Jephtha analogy support the case for Ophelia's virginity?

Joe Egert

[Editor's Note: One of my undergraduate professors, a fine Southern 
Gentleman, Professor James G. McManaway, made just such a contention in 
"Ophelia and Jephtha's Daughter." _Shakespeare Quarterly_ 21 (1970): 
198-200. I was also in his class when he announced that he had uncovered 
a discovery about that he later published in "John Shakespeare's 
'Spiritual Testament'" _Shakespeare Quarterly_ 18 .3 (1967): 197-205. 
But what I shall never forget is the paper I wrote for him as a naive, 
dyslexic, undergraduate: I hyphenated (This was the early days of 
covered wagons and typewriters - no personal computers for another 
fifteen years) the dramatist's name as "Shakes- peare." When he returned 
our papers, Dr. McManaway asked me in front of the entire class if I had 
typed this paper myself. I shyly said, "Yes." Whereupon this quiet man 
raised his voice, slapped my paper down on the desk in front of me and 
said in a mocking tone, "The name is 'SHAKE' 'SPEARE' NOT 'Shakes' 
'PEARE.'" I was humiliated, but I never made a mistake in hyphenating 
this name again. I must add that there was no malice or harmfulness in 
his tone; he was clearly enjoying himself, correcting this newly 
declared English major. -Hardy]

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