2008

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0032  Thursday, 17 January 2008

[1] 	From:	Matthew Henerson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 07:19:08 -0800
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

[2] 	From:	Martin Mueller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 09:35:50 -0600
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

[3] 	From:	Katy Stavreva <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 10:13:13 -0600
	Subj:	RE: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

[4] 	From:	Jennifer Pierce <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 13:04:38 -0500
	Subj:	RE: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

[5] 	From:	Joe Wagner <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 21:58:51 -0500
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

[6] 	From:	Anne Cuneo <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Thursday, 17 Jan 2008 07:27:21 +0100
	Subj:	SHK 19008 Richard III novel

[7] 	From:	Arthur Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Thursday, 17 Jan 2008 09:56:47 +0000
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

[8] 	From:	Kelly Rivers <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Thursday, 17 Jan 2008 06:46:42 -0800 (PST)
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?


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From:		Matthew Henerson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 07:19:08 -0800
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

This is a bit off-kilter, but *Richard III *has always put me in mind of 
*Vanity Fair.* Social ambitions rather than political, but an equally 
ruthless, and correspondingly disadvantaged protagonist, and God knows 
it is a weighty brute.

Matt Henerson

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From:		Martin Mueller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 09:35:50 -0600
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

There is always Josephine Tey's Daughter of Time. Not exactly a 
"weighty" or "classic" novel, but a novel that has its own take on 
ambition and the distortions to which it leads.

MM

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From:		Katy Stavreva <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 10:13:13 -0600
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	RE: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

How about Alexander Dumas' _La Reigne Margot_? It's bursting at the 
seams with characters driven by political ambition. And it teaches 
wonderfully!

Katy Stavreva

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From:		Jennifer Pierce <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 13:04:38 -0500
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	RE: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

Machiavelli's _The Prince_ seems about right.

Jennifer Pierce

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From:		Joe Wagner <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Wednesday, 16 Jan 2008 21:58:51 -0500
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

You might try "The Sunne in Splendour: A Novel of Richard III" by Sharon 
Kay Penman--it's a compelling read that offers a very different spin on 
Richard.

Joe Wagner
Kent State University
(Emeritus)

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From:		Anne Cuneo <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Thursday, 17 Jan 2008 07:27:21 +0100
Subject: Richard III novel
Comment:	SHK 19008 Richard III novel

I would recommend anyone of the Balzac novels, from "Le Pere Goriot" on. 
And Stendhal's "La chartreuse de Parme".

Sorry for not knowing the English titles, but you will no doubt be 
familiar with them. Reading Balzac made me understand what makes 
ambitious (and sometimes unscrupulous) politicians tick.

There is of course "All the President's Men", which focuses on the 
ambitious politician's downfall, but perhaps that does not rate as a 
classical novel...

Friendly greetings,
Anne Cuneo

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From:		Arthur Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Thursday, 17 Jan 2008 09:56:47 +0000
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

My immediate and somewhat puzzled response is that I can think of an 
extraordinary number of plays, as early as *Antigone*, as late as David 
Hare's *Stuff Happens,* that would fit, but very few major novels. (No 
doubt I'm forgetting something obvious.)  If the link were tyranny 
rather than ambition, I would suggest *Emma* or *Mansfield Park.* Both 
books are centrally concerned with misrule and right rule. Frank 
Churchill and Henry Crawford-actors, manipulators, seducers, petty 
tyrants-both bear significant resemblances to Richard but specifically 
lack the political ambition that might go with their rank.

Of course, if this is *the *Ken Adelman, he might have a particularly 
interesting perspective on *Stuff Happens.*

Regards,
Arthur Lindley

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From:		Kelly Rivers <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Thursday, 17 Jan 2008 06:46:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 19.0018 Richard III Novel?
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0018 Richard III Novel?

What about Machiavelli's _The Prince_? It's not really a novel, but it 
covers political discourse in such a way that it would inform any 
reading of RII.

Kelly Rivers

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