2008

Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0247  Tuesday, 29 April 2008

[1] 	From:	Thomas Pendleton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Monday, 28 Apr 2008 16:19:19 -0400
	Subj:	RE: SHK 19.0244 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6

[2] 	From:	John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Monday, 28 Apr 2008 22:58:12 +0100
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0244 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6


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From:		Thomas Pendleton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Monday, 28 Apr 2008 16:19:19 -0400
Subject: 19.0244 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6
Comment:	RE: SHK 19.0244 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6

Henslowe's Diary records a performance by the Earl of Sussex's Men of 
"titus & ondronicus" on January 23, 1594. The entry is marked "ne," 
which seems to mean a new play; it certainly seems to have been 
advertised as new, to judge from the impressive receipts. This isn't 
quite an ironclad guarantee that this is the premiere of Shakespeare's 
Titus, but it's about as strong as such evidence gets.

Henslowe's record of the "ne" "harey the vj" on March 3, 1591 (for 1592) 
is sometimes taken as the premiere of 1 Henry VI. But this, I think, is 
much more problematical. The performance of Henry VIII, during which the 
Globe burned down, may have been its premiere, although Sir Henry 
Wotton's letter calls it only "a new play."

Bob Grumman's implicit objection that we have few (if any) records of 
Shakespearean premieres is quite accurate. There are some court 
performances that are dated, but it is questionable whether the acting 
company would have played something unproven in public performance in 
such a venue.

Tom Pendleton

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From:		John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Monday, 28 Apr 2008 22:58:12 +0100
Subject: 19.0244 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0244 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6

Bob Grumman wrote:

 >John Briggs speaks of premieres of certain plays by Shakespeare such
 >as Titus Andronicus. I was not aware that we knew the date of any of
 >his plays' premieres. What evidentiary backing is there for any
 >specific date as the date of a Shakespearean premiere?

The "evidentiary backing" is that those dates for first performances of 
those plays are annotated "ne" (i.e. "new") in Philip Henlowe's "Diary." 
The "evidential backing" for that interpretation is that similar 
annotations for other plays do indeed seem to be definitely first 
performances of new plays - and not just revised plays.

John Briggs

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Job Teaching Shakespeare PT Online

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0246  Tuesday, 29 April 2008

From:		James Fitzmaurice <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 10:26:51 -0700
Subject:	Job Teaching Shakespeare PT Online

Northern Arizona University is looking for an ABD or PhD to teach a 
junior-level Shakespeare class on the web. I built the class some five 
years ago and have taught it on a regular basis. The new person could 
adapt my content and assessment structure as needed. The students are 
generally rural but well motivated and intelligent. The weak ones 
usually drop in the first week or simply do not elect to take the class. 
I have enjoyed teaching the course. A brief case study detailing my 
experiences with teaching Shakespeare on the web (both graduate and 
undergraduate) will appear before very long (I hope) from MLA in a 
volume edited by Ian Lancashire.

Please reply to me off list.

Professor James Fitzmaurice
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Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0244  Monday, 28 April 2008

From:		Bob Grumman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Saturday, 26 Apr 2008 14:28:32 -0500
Subject: 19.0240 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0240 Thomas Kyd and 1 Henry 6

John Briggs speaks of premieres of certain plays by Shakespeare such as 
Titus Andronicus. I was not aware that we knew the date of any of his 
plays' premieres. What evidentiary backing is there for any specific 
date as the date of a Shakespearean premiere?

--Bob G.

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"Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0245  Tuesday, 29 April 2008

[1] 	From:	Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Monday, 28 Apr 2008 16:12:27 -0400
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

[2] 	From:	John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 01:00:14 +0100
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

[3] 	From:	Carol Barton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Monday, 28 Apr 2008 21:56:00 -0400
	Subj:	Re: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

[4] 	From:	Sid Lubow <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Monday, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:25 EDT
	Subj:	Compendious or Brief Relation

[5] 	From:	Kate Welch <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:58 +0100
	Subj:	RE: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

[6] 	From:	Tom Reedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
	Date:	Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 11:12:52 -0500 (CDT)
	Subj:	Re: "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."


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From:		Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Monday, 28 Apr 2008 16:12:27 -0400
Subject: 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

I have found this at Folger. All I recalled of the title from the NYPL 
catalog entry was "Compendious or Brief." Since Schoenbaum calls it 
"Compendious or Brief Relation," I searched Folger's HAMNET catalog for 
that title. Actually, the title is "Compendious or Brief Examination 
..." and I found it on HAMNET under that name.

I apologize for any inconvenience.

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From:		John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 01:00:14 +0100
Subject: 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

Larry Weiss wrote:

 >Many years ago I was researching the Shakespeare Apocrypha at the New
 >York Public Library and came across a catalog entry for a prose
 >pamphlet attributed to WS bearing a very long title beginning with
 >"Compendious or Brief ...." I made a mental note to return to this
 >item and, in the meantime, turned my attention to other matters. But,
 >of course, I never got around to that mysterious pamphlet until
 >recently when I returned to the NYPL to look for it and found that it
 >is no longer in the catalog. I thought that perhaps my mind was
 >tricking me into recalling something that wasn't there.
 >
 >More recently, I found a reference in Sam Schoenbaum's "Shakespeare's
 >Lives" to a pamphlet entitled "Compendious or Brief Relation" which
 >was falsely (or, in any case, erroneously) attributed to Shakespeare.
 >At least I was comforted to know that I had not gone mad or become
 >demented. But it is still not in the NYPL system-wide catalog. Was the
 >item lost, stolen, thrown away? It doesn't matter which, as it is not
 >there. This led me to look it up in the Folger's online catalog,
 >HAMNET; but it isn't there either. If the Folger doesn't have it, who
 >does? Schoenbaum must have seen at least a reference to it somewhere.

It is almost certainly:

A Compendious or briefe examination of certayne ordinary complaints of 
diuers of our country men in these our dayes ... By William Stafford ...
Imprint: London, Imprinted by T. Marshe, 1581.
Description1 v.

LOCATION Humanities- Microforms  CALL #  *ZKC 1220-23133

Note: Caption title: A briefe conceipte touching the common weale of 
this realme of England.
Running title: A briefe conceipte of English pollicye.
Two other issues of 1581 are printed under the authorship of W. S.
Attributed to William Stafford and others, but more probably written by 
John Hales. Cf. Dict. nat. biog.
Short-title catalogue no. 23133 (carton 1220)

Additional Name: Hales, John, d. 1571.
Stafford, William, 1554-1612.
Additional Title: A briefe conceipte of English policye.

[Furnivall edited it for the New Shakespere Society in 1876]

John Briggs

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From:		Carol Barton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Monday, 28 Apr 2008 21:56:00 -0400
Subject: 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."
Comment:	Re: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

Larry, what you seem to have been looking at was

[Stafford, William.] A compendious or briefe examination of certayne 
ordinary complaints, of divers of our country men in these our days.. By 
W. S. Guilleman, 1581. Ed. by Furnivall, F. J., with an Introduction by 
Matthew, F. D. New Shaksp. Soc. Publ. 1876

Best to all,
Carol Barton

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From:		Sid Lubow <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Monday, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:25 EDT
Subject:	Compendious or Brief Relation

Larry Weiss, perhaps this will help you in your search and where I found it.

Compendious Examination of Certain Complaints (1565)

  IDENTITY STATEMENT
  Reference code(s): GB 0103 MS OGDEN 20
  Held at: University College London
  Title: Compendious Examination of Certain Complaints (1565)
  Date(s): 1565
  Level of description: Collection (fonds)
  Extent: 1 volume containing 173 folios
  Name of creator(s): Unknown
  CONTEXT
  Administrative/Biographical history:
William Stafford: born at Rochford, Essex, 1554; educated at Winchester, 
where he was admitted scholar, 1564; New College Oxford, where he 
matriculated, 1571; elected Fellow, 1573; deprived of his Fellowship for 
absenting himself beyond his leave, 1575; apparently became a courtier; 
suddenly left London for Dieppe, 1585; returned, 1586; accused of 
involvement in a plot to assassinate Queen Elizabeth and imprisoned in 
the Tower of London until 1588; after his marriage in 1593 resided 
quietly in Norfolk for the remainder of his life; presented various 
books to Winchester College; died, 1612.

http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search2?coll_id=3608&inst_id=13

Respectfully,
Sid Lubow

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From:		Kate Welch <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:58 +0100
Subject: 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."
Comment:	RE: SHK 19.0243 "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

Larry Weiss asked about the 'prose pamphlet attributed to WS bearing a 
very long title beginning with "Compendious or Brief ...." '

According to Jaggard's Bibliography (1911) this pamphlet was written by 
William Stafford but the author's initials on the title-page led to the 
misattribution. Also the dedication to Queen Elizabeth I mentions her 
clemency in pardoning an offence of the author which editors took to be 
Shakespeare's deer-poaching.

Jaggard lists copies of the original 1581 text at Boston Public Library 
and the Earl of Warwick's private library at Warwick Castle and a 1751 
reprint at the British Library, Boston Public Library and the 
Shakespeare Memorial Library (now the Shakespeare Centre Library, 
Stratford-upon-Avon). He also notes that it was reprinted in the 
Harleian Miscellany volume 9 in 1812 and by the New Shakespeare Society 
in 1876, edited by F. J. Furnivall.

Kate Welch
Shakespeare Institute Library
Stratford-upon-Avon.

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From:		Tom Reedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:		Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 11:12:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:	Re: "Compendious or Brief Relation ..."

 >Many years ago I was researching the Shakespeare Apocrypha at the New
 >York Public Library and came across a catalog entry for a prose
 >pamphlet attributed to WS bearing a very long title beginning
 >with "Compendious or Brief ...." <snip>
 >
 >If anyone can offer some help as to where I can find this
 >pamphlet, or a facsimile, reprint or even a description
 >of it, I would be grateful.

The pamphlet you're looking for is "A Compendious or briefe examination 
of certayne ordinary complaints of divers of our countrymen in these our 
dayes: which although they are in some part unjust and frivolous, yet 
are they all by way of dialogues thoroughly debated and discussed. By 
W.S. Gentleman," first printed in 1681 and republished in 1751 
attributed to Shakespeare. It was reprinted again as _A Discourse of the 
Commonweal of This Realm of England_, ed. Mary Dewar. Charlottesville: 
University Press of Virginia for the Folger Shakespeare Library in 1969. 
See also her "The Authorship of the 'Discourse of the Commonweal'" in 
The Economic History Review, 1966; 19(2):388-400.

Tom Reedy

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Richard Helgerson, 1940-2008

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 19.0242  Monday, 28 April 2008

From:        Shannon Miller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:        Monday, 28 Apr 2008 15:07:53 -0400
Subject:     Richard Helgerson, 1940-2008

Dear Shakespeareans,

It saddens me greatly to announce that Professor Richard Helgerson of UC 
Santa Barbara died on Saturday, after a long battle with cancer. In 
addition to being an award-winning, ground-breaking, and inspiring 
scholar, he was also a wonderful teacher and mentor. The field of 
Renaissance literature has lost a great man.

A memorial service will be held on May 23rd at UC Santa Barbara. His 
colleagues at UCSB have posted a full obituary as well as reflections on 
his scholarly and teaching career at http://emc.english.ucsb.edu

Best,
Shannon Miller
Department of English
Temple University

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