2009

Women, Passion, and Lack of Self-Control

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0527  Tuesday, 20 October 2009

From:       Joseph Egert <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:       Sunday, 18 Oct 2009 12:59:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 20.0508 Women, Passion, and Lack of Self-Control
Comment:    Re: SHK 20.0508 Women, Passion, and Lack of Self-Control

Unhae Langis asks: "Can anyone direct me to an early modern source that 
presents this same idea [on female inferiority] but from the late 
1500s/early 1600s rather than mid-1600s?"

For a useful introduction and gateway to primary source material, check 
out THE RENAISSANCE NOTION OF WOMEN (1980) by Ian Maclean:

http://books.google.com/books?id=D2BXuOSoH9YC&pg=PP1&dq=intitle:renaissance+intitle:notion+intitle:of+intitle:woman+inauthor:maclean&lr=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Good luck,
Joe Egert

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The Book of William by Paul Collins

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0526  Tuesday, 20 October 2009

[1] From:   Felix de Villiers <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
     Date:   Saturday, 17 Oct 2009 10:46:30 +0200
     Subj:   The Book of William by Paul Collins

[2] From:   Jason Rhode <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
     Date:   Tuesday, 20 Oct 2009 00:09:15 -0500
     Subj:   Re: SHK 20.0515 The Book of William by Paul Collins


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From:       Felix de Villiers <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:       Saturday, 17 Oct 2009 10:46:30 +0200
Subject:    The Book of William by Paul Collins

The Book of William by Paul Collins

I was quite dismayed by Larry Weiss's comment on when Shakespeare truly 
becomes the consummate genius, But I think he is being provocative and 
having us on a bit. As an icebreaker at the dinner table, the subject is 
sure to result in lively debate. I might throw a glass of wine across 
the table and leave in a huff. Surely Shakespeare is SHAKESPEARE at 
least from Romeo and Juliet, Midsummer, Richard II onwards. If he had 
died after Macbeth it would have been like Beethoven dying after the 
Appassionata and Waldstein Sonatas, still the giant among composers. 
Then there are the Sonnets which are pure Shakespeare from beginning to end.

A weakness of mine is that I don't know Shakespeare's contemporaries 
well enough. I have read The Changeling by Middleton plus collaborator 
once (not enough) and found that it didn't come anywhere near 
Shakespeare's heights. Larry has a very high estimation of Middleton. 
This is the pleasure of our dialogues for those of us who are less 
experts: they tell us things we didn't know and arouse our interest in 
'new' authors. I will read Middleton.

I have a big, somewhat old-fashioned History of English literature by 
two Frenchmen, Legouis and Cazamian, and they write that Shakespeare was 
equaled in all his genres, like the song, character, poetic charms, by 
his contemporaries (meaning one author per genre) but that his gift lay 
in fusing all these.

Yours,
Felix

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From:       Jason Rhode <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:       Tuesday, 20 Oct 2009 00:09:15 -0500
Subject: 20.0515 The Book of William by Paul Collins
Comment:    Re: SHK 20.0515 The Book of William by Paul Collins

How many limbs could you cut off Wayne Gretzky ...

 >To me, "SHAKESPEARE," the power-meme, the cultural phenomenon,
 >is an emergent property that requires the presence of
 >Hamlet/Othello/Macbeth/Lear, and maybe one or two other signal plays;
 >the Henriad or Romeo and Juliet/MSD. He's a Ghost in the Machine (as
 >opposed to a Ghost on the Elsinore Battlement) generated when the text
 >of the Great Plays is performed or read. Without the plays he's a gifted
 >poet, a Marvell; without the poems we'd still love him, he'd still be
 >Shakespeare; but he has about four-to-seven crucial legs that, without
 >which, we moderns would see him as Marlowe's gifted epigone, a
 >Warwickshire rustic with a predilection for Ovid and birds, a blip on the
 >radar between Tamurlaine and Poetaster.

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Wriothesley Anagrams

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0524  Tuesday, 20 October 2009

[Editor's Note: Despite my ban on messages regarding coding, I could not 
pass up this submission from Tony Burton. Also, it was called to my 
attention that the thread that become usage-bashing was inappropriate 
and I agree. As I strive to maintain an academic level in discourse, I 
will continue to reject postings that I deem inconsistent with the list 
as I see it, but some will slip through and for those I apologize. --HMC]


From:       Anthony Burton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:       Friday, 16 Oct 2009 13:15:42 -0400
Subject: 20.0517 Wriothesley Anagrams
Comment:    Re: SHK 20.0517 Wriothesley Anagrams

Hasn't it occurred to anyone that Malvolio's labored attempt to make 
something out of his M. O. A. I. is a glorious send-up of the whole game 
of anagram detection and cipher mongering?

Will himself may have played the game - and he certainly seems to have 
played just about every word game around even though he later parodied 
it. However, his portrayal of Molvoloio's misguided efforts  to find 
what isn't there in order to support a deluded fantasy, can serve as a 
cautionary warning to anagramaniacs and cipherphiles how they appear to 
the rational observer. Let them desist lest they all  be confined in 
some dark place.

Tony B

PS: Modesty restrains me from submitting a progress report of my 
research into "Hardy Cook" anagrams in the Romances. But be assured, 
when my conclusions are published there will be widespread astonishment.

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Barbara Palmer

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0525  Tuesday, 20 October 2009

From:       Lois Potter <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:       Friday, 16 Oct 2009 20:24:12 -0400
Subject: 20.0511 Barbara Palmer
Comment:    RE: SHK 20.0511 Barbara Palmer

The Blackfriars Conference is coming up, and it won't feel the same 
without Barbara. What a delightful, witty woman!  I've been trying to 
remember what made her REED presentation two years ago so funny, and the 
only line that comes back to me went something like this: "We ask you to 
leave questions for the end, when there will be no time for them." But, 
to get the effect, you really have to hear it in her dry voice. The rest 
is silence.

Lois

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Macbeth at Mac

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0523  Tuesday, 20 October 2009

From:       Ron Severdia <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:       Monday, 19 Oct 2009 13:26:31 -0700
Subject:    Macbeth at Mac

Reading of _Macbeth_ at Apple Store Theatre in San Francisco

The iPhone can take you anywhere you want to go, including the Scottish 
moors. In this special event, watch Shakespearean actors (of the Modern 
Shakespeare Company) perform a dramatic reading of Shakespeare's Macbeth 
using the free iPhone app, Shakespeare, co-developed by 
PlayShakespeare.com and Readdle.com.

Audience members are encouraged to download the application and follow 
along with this dramatic reading that is the first of its kind to bridge 
old world literature and new age technology.

Date: October 25, 2009 at 5pm
Location: Apple Store San Francisco, One Stockton St., San Francisco, CA 
94108

More info:
http://www.playshakespeare.com/news/3829-reading-of-macbeth-at-apple-store-theatre-in-san-francisco

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