The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0401 Friday, 24 July 2009
[1] From: Michele Marrapodi <
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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 2009 23:39:06 +0100
Subj: Re: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
[2] From: Abigail Quart <
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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 2009 18:45:54 -0400
Subj: RE: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
[3] From: Jim Marino <
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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 2009 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subj: Re: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
[4] From: Peter Holland <
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Date: Friday, 24 Jul 2009 03:15:04 -0400
Subj: Re: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
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From: Michele Marrapodi <
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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 2009 23:39:06 +0100
Subject: 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
Comment: Re: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
May I suggest that there are two chapters in _Shakespeare, Italy, and
Intertextuality_ (MUP, 2004) which deal differently with this question.
Best wishes,
Michele Marrapodi,
University of Palermo.
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From: Abigail Quart <
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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 2009 18:45:54 -0400
Subject: 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
Comment: RE: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
I've always suspected this was why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchior_Klesl
Melchior Klesl (sometimes Khlesl, rarely Cleselius) (February 19, 1552 -
September 18, 1630) was an Austrian statesman and cardinal of the Roman
Catholic church during the time of the Counter-Reformation. Klesl was
appointed Bishop of Vienna in 1598 and elevated to cardinal in 1616.
"Rudolf II, impressed by the vigour and success of his campaign against
Protestantism, entrusted him with the work of the Counter-Reformation,
which became his life work. Klesl brought back into the fold the cities
of Baden, Krems, and Stein, though not without great difficulty, nor
indeed without actual risk of his life. In 1585 he was made imperial
councillor by Rudolf II, who three years later appointed him court
chaplain and administrator of the Diocese of Wiener Neustadt. It took
him but a very short time to restore the Catholic rule in this
thoroughly disorganized bishopric. He was compelled in doing so to be
constantly on his guard against the monastic council, which, in a
memorial on the subject, he calls, "the cause of all evil, the champion
of godless prelates and priests against their bishop, a parasite".
In 1598 Klesl was named Bishop of Vienna, a diocese which was
spiritually and materially in a state of degradation."
Toward the end of Elizabeth's reign, there was good reason to fear a
bloody counter-reformation in England. After all, children had grown up
hearing stories of Bloody Mary. And the succession was not as settled as
some could wish. Nor was the likely heir (beheaded Catholic Mary
Stuart's little boy) as big a fan of protestantism as some would like to
believe.
But, since he couldn't talk about religion, Will talked about sex, and
used it to remind England of Catholic hypocrisy and deadly inclinations.
Have fun, everybody.
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From: Jim Marino <
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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 2009 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
Comment: Re: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
I think the fact that Vienna was Hapsburg country would have been an
important point to Shakespeare, and a meaningful one in terms of 17th
century political and religious conflicts.
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From: Peter Holland <
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Date: Friday, 24 Jul 2009 03:15:04 -0400
Subject: 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
Comment: Re: SHK 20.0394 WS View of Vienna for M4M
Gary Taylor has argued, quite convincingly, that Shakespeare did *not*
set Measure in Vienna but that the moving of the location to Vienna was
part of Middleton's revision of the play, a revision that we can now
firmly date to the early 1620s, thanks to work by John Jowett. Taylor's
suggestion for the original location of the play is Ferrara but the
strength of his article does not depend on whether it was Ferrara or
some other three-syllable Italian city. It's in the collection called
Shakespeare and the Mediterranean edited by Clayton and others (2004).
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