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The Hounds of Theseus
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 20.0322  Wednesday, 17 June 2009

[1] From:   John Briggs <
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     Date:   Monday, 15 Jun 2009 21:05:33 +0100
     Subj:   Re: SHK 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus

[2] From:   Markus Marti <
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     Date:   Tuesday, 16 Jun 2009 00:26:07 +0200
     Subj:   Re: SHK 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus

[3] From:   William Godshalk <
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     Date:   Monday, 15 Jun 2009 19:53:34 -0400
     Subj:   RE: SHK 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus


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From:       John Briggs <
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Date:       Monday, 15 Jun 2009 21:05:33 +0100
Subject: 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus
Comment:    Re: SHK 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus

Joe Egert wrote:

 >Judy Prince believes, "MND celebrates love and sensual pleasure."
 >
 >Whether MND celebrates or rather fiercely burlesques sensual love is,
 >like most things Shakespearean, open to debate.
 >
 >Probably both.

As has been pointed out here several times, what MND burlesques is 
"Romeo and Juliet".

"Shakespeare repeats himself: the first time as tragedy, the second as 
farce." [I had to Google that to see who I had taken it from -- and 
found it was myself!]

John Briggs

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From:       Markus Marti <
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Date:       Tuesday, 16 Jun 2009 00:26:07 +0200
Subject: 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus
Comment:    Re: SHK 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus

 >I think it unlikely that Shakespeare's company would have a cry of hounds
 >conveniently to hand in the middle of London -- a single trained dog or a
 >superannuated toothless bear, perhaps, but not a full pack of tuned curs.

Dear Robin: Finding curs is no problem in today's London: If the RSC 
were asked to perform MND on the occasion of Her Majesty's garden party, 
a beautiful and well-tuned set of beagles would always be ready.

It was even less of a problem in Shakespeare's time: The whole city of 
London with its 150,000 inhabitants was the size of today's York, or 
Gloucester, or Huddersfield, or Slough. The South bank was not "the 
middle of London" but part of the country (belonging to the Bishop of 
Winchester). No problem to find dogs there, as people probably used to 
hunt in the near forests which are now called "Lambeth", "Elephant and 
Castle", or "Brixton". But there was an easier solution: The "Bear 
howse" - only two streets away - could rent out some of its many dogs 
that were needed to hunt down the superannuated toothless bear.

:)
Markus Marti

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Date:       Monday, 15 Jun 2009 19:53:34 -0400
Subject: 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus
Comment:    RE: SHK 20.0316 The Hounds of Theseus

It seems to me that Hippolyta's comments on the hounds (4.1.112) should 
be read in the context of her comments on Theseus's sexual hints in 
1.1.7-10, and on Theseus's thoughts on the imagination (5.1.23-27).

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