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Hamlet's Feminine Endings

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 21.0245  Sunday, 20 June 2010

[1]  From:      Abigail Quart < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
     Date:      June 12, 2010 5:20:39 PM EDT
     Subj:      Re: SHK 21.0239  Hamlet's Feminine Endings 

[2]  From:      Abigail Quart < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
     Date:      June 12, 2010 5:20:39 PM EDT
     Subj:      Re: SHK 21.0239  Hamlet's Feminine Endings 

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From:         Abigail Quart < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Date:         June 12, 2010 5:20:39 PM EDT
Subject: 21.0239  Hamlet's Feminine Endings
Comment:      Re: SHK 21.0239  Hamlet's Feminine Endings

With respect to Mr. Mueller, all the statistical analysis on the planet or the full
body of Stephen Jay Gould's writings on every other topic but Shakespeare will not
alter the effect of reading Sonnet 20. It's a gag. It's a joke. The joke is
emphasized by using FOURTEEN feminine endings FOURTEEN. That's the big fat cue that
something funny is going on. If Shakespeare were using FOURTEEN feminine endings
FOURTEEN without believing they were "feminine" endings or that his friends believed
it as well, there wouldn't be a joke. And one would have to seriously wonder why he
bothered.

I am also convinced along with Ms. Tarlinskaya that, due to the amazing and
brilliant work of so very many scholars, nobody in the 21st century does believe
that unstressed endings have anything to do with femininity. Dangling flaccid dicks,
more like.

Shakespeare, however, lived, worked, and studied in a different century. And he had
a rollicking good time with what so many are so eager to deny.

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From:         William Sutton < This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it >
Date:         June 13, 2010 7:17:19 AM EDT
Subject: 21.0239  Hamlet's Feminine Endings
Comment:      Re: SHK 21.0239  Hamlet's Feminine Endings

Hi,

I was hoping a renowned verse expert such as Marina Tarlinskaja would join the discussion.
Simultaneously disappointed at being pointed to difficult to access scholarly journals for further
enlightenment. (is there a rhetorical term for this hope/disappointment)?

The central argument here I thought was if there was a correspondence between feminine lines
and femininity in the 16/17thC. A metrically naive assumption apparently in the 21stC . 

I did find Karel van der Mander's definition in his lives of Northern European Artists and indeed
he notes that it derives from French poetry and attaches no gender bias. 

I do have Shakespeare's verse so I will re-read and search for the relevant passages therein for
enlightenment. 

Prosodically yours,
William Sutton

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