Re: Leontes

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1876  Wednesday, 4 October 2000.

From:           Bruce Young <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 03 Oct 2000 17:35:36 -0600
Subject: 11.1843 Leontes
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1843 Leontes

Elizabeth Williamson asked about a connection between Leontes in The
Winter's Tale and a personage of the same name in The Republic.  I think
there may be a couple of reasons no one has found information on the
connection.  The character in Plato is named Leontion (at least in the
translation I'm using), not Leontes.  And he appears in Book IV, not
Book III.  I doubt Shakespeare had this character in mind, but who

Bruce Young

Re: Shakespeare in Schools

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1875  Wednesday, 4 October 2000.

From:           Sam Small <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 03 Oct 2000 19:48:26 +0100
Subject: 11.1862 Re: Shakespeare in Schools
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1862 Re: Shakespeare in Schools

I thank the several people on this list for the support of my
proposition that people should wait till 30 to enter into Shakespeare's
language domain.  I think my objection is, and always will be, the
enforced "Christisation" of our favourite poet.  Other people on the
list seemed to have indoctrinated their children from an early age with
the notion that Shakespeare is the greatest and wisest man that ever
lived, 'nuff said.  I knew some Christian Fellowship people many years
ago and once visited the home of one family.  They had no TV, talked
non-stop about Jesus, prayed several times during my stay, giggled about
my agnosticism and had an open Bible on the toilet cistern.  I hope
there are no such Shakespeare types in this list.

Shakespeare is not a divinity and we ardent fans must accept that there
are some liberal, intelligent, enlightened souls out there who simply
don't like him. And those of you who have laboured with teenagers may I
suggest that they more likely responded to you and your valiant efforts
rather than the Bard's sometime opaque text.  Hamlet's obsessive musings
on Death are those of a much older human type, and not those who "are
yet strangers in the world".

Rowan Akinson has a new history spoof show just out here in England
called "Black Adder".  One of the TV trails has him meeting the Bard in
a corridor.  "Are you William Shakespeare?" says Rowan.  "Yes, I am,"
smiles Will.  Rowan strikes Will in the face.  Will crashes to the
floor.  Says Rowan, "That's for every schoolboy and schoolgirl for the
next 400 years!"

But for those of us who vaguely think as I do, we have the last laugh.
It was said by an Oxford Shakespearian editor that Hamlet changed
western thinking.  So in a sense, whether we like him or loathe him we
are all in a Hamletian future.



The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1873  Wednesday, 4 October 2000.

From:           Frank Whigham <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 03 Oct 2000 12:07:11 -0500
Subject:        "Alarbes"

Can anyone identify the Alarbes, a people referred to in the following
passage from Puttenham's *Art of English Poesy* (1589)?


One praising the Neapolitans for good men at arms, said . . . thus:

A proud people and wise and valiant,
Fiercely fighting with horses and with barbs:
By whose prowess the Roman Prince did daunt,
Wild Africans and the lawless Alarbes:
The Nubians marching with their armed carts,
And slaying afar with venom and with darts.


Many thanks,
Frank Whigham

Student Essays/Topics

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1874  Wednesday, 4 October 2000.

From:           David Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 3 Oct 2000 17:43:17 GMT
Subject:        Student Essays/Topics

Philip Weller's posting raises a question which has often intrigued me -
in the UK we customarily set essay topics in the form, say, of a
quotation from a critic (real or imagined) with the invitation to
discuss it.  I have found, over the years, that students on various JYA
programmes from the US and Canada almost never answer the question as
formulated, but rewrite it into something more generalised. So, for
example, a question on colonialism in the Tempest might quote Paul
Brown, or Meredith Skura or another influential critic - but the answer
I get just puts 'Colonialism in the Tempest' at its head, and refuses
the specific 'take' of the critical quotation.

Is this just an example of different educational practice?  Is this,
perhaps, why plagiarism from web sites is a bit more difficult to bring
off in the UK?  (Though, of course, plagiarism of various kinds is an
ever-present and growing problem.)

David Lindley

Romeo & Juliet Opening This Week!

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1872  Wednesday, 4 October 2000.

From:           Sherri Young <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:14:36 -0700
Subject:        Romeo & Juliet Opening This Week!

Please pass this announcement to family and friends; call (415) 333-1918
for info.

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October 5, 6, 7, 8, and 12, 13, 14, 15 (Thursday through Saturday 8:00
pm; Sunday 2:00 p.m.)

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story of Romeo & Juliet set amongst a Latino and African-American
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