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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0723 Friday, 30 March 2001 From: Thomas Larque <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Saturday, 24 Mar 2001 18:33:55 -0000 Subject: Daniel's Relationship to Shakespeare > Is there any particular reason for the assertion of "strong influence" > by Daniel in particular, or is this just a matter of *Delia* being > representative of the many post-Sydney, Petrarchan/anti-Petrarchan > sequences that were in circulation in the early 1590s? Karen Peterson asks me to justify my claim that Daniel's "Delia" and "Complaint of Rosamond" had a "strong influence" on Shakespeare. As a humble student of Shakespeare, I would be very interested to hear whether anybody (or everybody) else thinks that I am overstating the relationship between Daniel's poems and Shakespeare's works (particularly his Sonnets). Cecil Seronsy's book on Daniel, ("Samuel Daniel", 1967), quotes J.Q.Adams making very wide-sweeping claims for the influence of Daniel upon Shakespeare. "Thus in choosing his model Shakespeare, as was usual with him, reflected contemporary taste. From Daniel's sonnets he took his form, acquired much of his sugared style, borrowed not a little imagery and thought, echoed occasional phrases, and learned the trick of nicely linking his poems together ... Thus his cycle came to differ from its model in a way that has led scholars to underestimate his really important indebtedness to the Delia sequence." (Adams, "A Life of William Shakespeare", pp.169-170). Admittedly Seronsy also quotes Claes Schaar, who believes that Shakespeare influenced Daniel rather than the other way around, but points out that this "runs counter to the majority judgement" (p.32). Dave Kathman (in his Shakespeare Authorship Page) makes a similarly powerful claim for Daniel's influence upon Shakespeare "Samuel Daniel has been recognized for the last 200 years as one of the most pervasive influences on Shakespeare's writing, particularly in the Sonnets but extending throughout the canon. Shakespeare repeatedly appropriated Daniel's vocabulary, images, themes (compare Shakespeare's Sonnets 1-18 with sonnets 33-40 of Daniel's Delia), and even unusual grammatical constructions (such as the pattern 'so [verb or adjective] as [adverbial modifier],' which is uncommon outside Shakespeare and Daniel)." - see www.clark.net/tross/ws/paral.html. H.R.D. Anders ("Shakespeare's Books", 1904) also believes that Daniel's work influenced Shakespeare, stating that "we find remarkable reminiscences, in the language, substance and form" of Daniel's "Complaint of Rosamond" in Shakespeare's earlier works. He believes that "A Lover's Complaint" was "written in imitation" of "Rosamond", and cites numerous parallels between "Rosamond" and both "The Rape of Lucrece" and "Romeo and Juliet". "Delia", he says, "served as a model for [Shakespeare's] sonnetic flights" and "we find traces of 'Delia' in his other works" - he gives examples from "Twelfth Night" and "The Rape of Lucrece". I personally believe that Daniel has a more significant influence upon Shakespeare than can be ascribed solely to their shared genre as Petrarchan style Sonnet authors. Admittedly I have not done enough research to be certain that all of the parallels between their works could not be products of shared sources or commonplaces, but I have not seen any arguments that this is the case. Such hypothetical coincidences aside, there seems to be abundant evidence of a close relationship between the two men's work. I hope in the near future to add to my webpage some out-of-(European)copyright sources on the relationship between Daniel and Shakespeare (hence my recent query about H.R.D. Anders). I would be grateful if anybody who knows of any other appropriate sources that I might use would let me know. Thomas Larque. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0722 Friday, 30 March 2001 From: Skip Nicholson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Saturday, 24 Mar 2001 09:46:30 -0800 Subject: 12.0703 Re: Shakespeare's Grave Comment: RE: SHK 12.0703 Re: Shakespeare's Grave We were told several years ago by a caretaker of some sort at Holy Trinity Church that Shakespeare was likely buried --as was common practice-- in a common grave out in the yard rather than inside the church. Where he got his information I know not.... Cheers, Skip Nicholson South Pasadena [CA] HSThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0721 Friday, 30 March 2001 From: Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 Subject: SHAKSPER Dear SHAKSPEReans: I am in a rather awkward position. As moderator I edit all posting. That means if for any reason I am not able to edit, you, as members, do not receive digests. I believe that as editor I should try as much as I can to keep my personal life personal. However, there has been a long hiatus and that hiatus will be continuing for a bit longer. During my years of SHAKSPER's stewardship, many of my family members have died -- my mother-in-law, mother, father-in-law, a sister-in-law, and before Christmas a brother-in-law who was only seven years older than I -- and I have through this been able to keep SHAKSPER going with only minimal interruptions. This is not the case right now. Weekend before last I attended my aunt's funeral in South Carolina. I returned with a case of bronchitis that kept me in bed for a week. What got me out of bed was my father's dying last Sunday after a prolonged, six-month illness. He was a good man and had a wonderful life. My wife is making a presentation at one of her professional organizations this week and we have long-planned to attend together with our two daughters. I was hoping to wake up this morning, the day after the funeral, and be able to catch up with the literally hundreds of messages in my mailbox. Announce that I would be away until Wednesday. Catch the plane this afternoon. Edit the digests on Wednesday and announce that I would be away for another conference until Sunday. Then announce when I was leaving for the SAA. But I do not known how much if any I will be able to catch up with. One thing I can explain. There are files on the SHAKSPER fileserver that change on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis. The Welcome Letter changes weekly. On Saturday, I mailed a copy of the Welcome Letter to everyone rather than just to the server. I hope this clears up that mystery. Another clarification: there have been some technical issues with starting the SHAKSPER Website. It has not always been up. It appears that Eric has made a temporary fix and all should be well until this summer when he and I will need to do some upgrading. I will be catching up as I can and I hope that I do not miss posting any time-sensitive announcement late. Thanks to everyone for all of your support and encouragement over the years, but I would appreciate your not sending me private messages until I am able to catch up. Hardy _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0720 Saturday, 24 March 2001 From: Martin Elsky <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, 23 Mar 2001 20:24:04 -0500 Subject: RSA Panel Website: Renaissance vs. Early Modern [with apologies for cross-posting] Dear SHAKSPERians: Those who plan to attend RSA in Chicago might be interested to know that this year's panel, Renaissance vs. Early Modern, is a continuation of last year's discussion, and that some of last year's papers (by Paul Grendler and Annabel Patterson) appear on our website: http://web.gc.cuny.edu/renaissancestudies/rsa2000 Martin Elsky CUNY Renaissance Studies ____________________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0719 Saturday, 24 March 2001 From: Thomas Larque <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, 23 Mar 2001 18:33:24 -0000 Subject: "Shylock in Germany" Yet another addition to my "Shakespeare and His Critics" webpage is an article on "Shylock in Germany" from the January and February 1880 editions of "The Theatre" magazine. This contains a brief discussion of various 19th Century German Shylocks and also a brief digression about the possible superiority of German Shakespeare study and performance to the British equivalent in 1880. The author - a patriotic Englishman - is forced to conclude that performances of Shakespeare were more common and more popular in Germany than in Britain, and that German critics published a larger proportion of criticism than their British counterparts - but argues that the quality of the British response to Shakespeare made up for the lack of quantity. The article can be seen on : http://ds.dial.pipex.com/thomas_larque/shy1-bea.htm Many thanks to those who responded to my query about Greek characters on the web (regarding Johnson). Thomas Larque. ____________________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>