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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0835 Wednesday, 11 April 2001 From: Arthur D L Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 09:18:38 +0800 Subject: 12.0810 Shakespeare spin-off Comment: Re: SHK 12.0810 Shakespeare spin-off Lennard Davis is a distinguished (and clever) 18th-C. fiction specialist. I suppose that's a recommendation for what sounds like an amusing book. Arthur Lindley _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0834 Wednesday, 11 April 2001 [1] From: Jim Lusardi <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 18:01:01 -0400 Subj: Re: SHK 12.0813 Re: Filmic Lears [2] From: P. D. Holland <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 13:45:52 +0100 Subj: Re: SHK 12.0813 Re: Filmic Lears [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Lusardi <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 18:01:01 -0400 Subject: 12.0813 Re: Filmic Lears Comment: Re: SHK 12.0813 Re: Filmic Lears To Chris Stroffolino re: Godard Lear-- See David Impastato. "Godard's Lear . . . Why Is It So Bad?" Shakespeare Bulletin 12.3 (Summer 1994): 38-41. Yours--Jim L., Co-Editor, SB [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: P. D. Holland <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 13:45:52 +0100 Subject: 12.0813 Re: Filmic Lears Comment: Re: SHK 12.0813 Re: Filmic Lears There is an outstanding analysis of Godard's film King Lear by Peter Donaldson in his book 'Shakespearean Films/ Shakespearean Directors' (1990). Many loathe the film with a remarkable intensity. I find it brilliant, astonishing and endlessly rewarding in its engagement with the place of Lear in our culture. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0833 Wednesday, 11 April 2001 [1] From: Stephanie Hughes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 13:18:41 -0700 Subj: Re: SHK 12.0820 Historical Accuracy [2] From: Takashi Kozuka <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 11:05:12 Subj: Re: Historical Accuracy [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephanie Hughes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 13:18:41 -0700 Subject: 12.0820 Historical Accuracy Comment: Re: SHK 12.0820 Historical Accuracy >Though I do not think that Dr. Marx's book absolutely hinges upon this >statement, the statement is utterly incorrect. Tyndale was martyred in >October of1536 on the continent at the instance of King Henry. . . . >what I'd like to set in >train is a conversation between those who might consider this sort of >error negligible and those who consider it egregious. > >R. A. Cantrell With hopes that I myself will not be judged as I judge, surely it is egregious. In a published work such a mistake threatens to destroy the reader's trust in everything the author says. Surely (hopefully) you are not the first to catch this. Both author and reader must be writhing. Stephanie Hughes [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Takashi Kozuka <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 11:05:12 Subject: Re: Historical Accuracy I think (though I may be wrong) it was Jonathan Bate who expressed his disappointment in his review of the book in the TLS. I did read Marx's book when it came out, and found it very disappointing, too. Catrell is right about Tyndale. My dissertation (PhD thesis), which I'm supposed to be working on *now*, is on Shakespeare and the English Reformation, and it does point out Marx's mistake. In 1535 Tyndale was betrayed by Henry Phillip (who posed as one of his converts) and seized by agents of the Council at Brussels. He was then imprisoned in the Castle of Vilvorde. In August 1536 he was condemned for heresy. He was strangled in the following October, and his body was consigned to the flames. Many copies of his translation were seized and burned, as was Tyndale himself. Marx may have confused Tyndale and Cranmer (who was burned in 1556), as Foxe's Actes and Monuments (known as Book of Martyrs) has a woodcut showing the burning of Cranmer. See the 1559 Latin edition of Rerum in ecclesia gestarum commentarii, and John Day's 1563 English edition of Foxe's Actes and Monuments. The latter edition also illustrates Cranmer being plucked from the University Church. To SHAKESPEReans who want to know more about Cranmer I would recommend Diarmaid MacCulloch's Thomas Cranmer: A Life (1996). (It's nearly 700 pages, though!) As for Miola, I would suggest that he is 'not guilty' as far as the 'editorial concern' goes, as he may not have read the passage which Catrell cited, and even if he did, he didn't read it as an editor. Marx's acknowledgment says that Miola read 'early drafts of several chapters' of his book. So it is possible that Miola may not have read the passage. Let us suppose for a moment Miola did read the passage in question. He is an expert in classics (including ancient religion), and its relationship to Renaissance literature, but unfortunately, not in the English Reformation. For this reason, (if he did read the passage in question) it may not be surprising that he couldn't have spotted Marx's fatal mistake. After all, almost any book consists of some mistakes -- whether minor or fatal. This statement is not meant to justify Marx's mistake. It recommends that we should be careful readers. Takashi Kozuka _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0832 Wednesday, 11 April 2001 [1] From: Tom Bishop <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 14:53:14 -0500 Subj: Re: SHK 12.0823 RSC-This England [2] From: William Proctor Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 18:27:50 -0400 Subj: RSC-This England again [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Bishop <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 14:53:14 -0500 Subject: 12.0823 RSC-This England Comment: Re: SHK 12.0823 RSC-This England >Subject: RSC-This England Am I correct in noting that King John is not among the plays being presented? Despite the claim to be performing them all in chronological order, Richard 2 is listed as the first. Is Henry VIII part of the program? [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Proctor Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 18:27:50 -0400 Subject: RSC-This England again And this from the 10 April Evening Standard Brush up your Shakespeare by Robin Stringer, Arts Correspondent "And gentlemen in England now abed, Shall think themselves accursed they were not here." So said Henry V at Agincourt, and Shakespeare devotees may be feeling as miffed if they miss out on the unique theatrical event that begins tonight at the Barbican. In The Pit theatre, the Royal Shakespeare Company embarks on its first ever complete cycle of the Bard's eight history plays in chronological sequence. The cycle begins with Samuel West's much-praised Richard II and ends across the river on Saturday night at the Young Vic with Richard III, with Aidan McArdle in the title role. A second complete cycle will be performed the following week, so you can take in all eight plays over a fortnight, if preferred. Some 500 men and women from as far afield as Quebec, California, Texas, Switzerland and Germany - not to mention the Scots, Irish, Cornish, a woman from Abergavenny and not a few Londoners - have already leapt at this unique chance and booked for complete cycles at a cost of
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0831 Wednesday, 11 April 2001 From: Stephanie Hughes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, 10 Apr 2001 12:41:50 -0700 Subject: 12.0815 Re: Black Rosalind Comment: Re: SHK 12.0815 Re: Black Rosalind >Alison Sealy-Smith played Rosaline in the 1992 Stratford, Ont. >Production of LLL. She also played Hippolyta in the company's punk >version of the DREAM in the following season. The casting seemed quite >appropriate for both plays, and I don't recollect any reviews that found >problems with it > >Peter Hyland I believe the original post that began this thread had to do with the author's vision of Rosaline's race, not what color the actress may be who plays the role. Certainly actors of all colors have played many (all?) of Shakespeare's roles without disturbing audiences or critics. That the author intended us to regard her as of African descent is another question and one that has been rather thoroughly gone over recently with regard to his vision of Cleopatra, so that it seems redundant to discuss it further. Stephanie Hughes _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu>