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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0443 Friday, 15 February 2002 From: Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 20:24:57 -0500 Subject: 13.0416 Re: "Reading" the Plays Comment: Re: SHK 13.0416 Re: "Reading" the Plays Unfortunately, the college where I work does little to encourage research, and there is certainly no research library nearby. But this question of reading the plays has interested me for a while. So, if I were going to go further with the question . . . I would start with Aristotle, and work backwards and forwards. Clearly, Aristotle treats drama as poetry, and one does not go far into the Poetics before he's discussing/contrasting tragedy, comedy, and epic. His audience seems broader than Greek dramatists, so there we have an ancient notion of drama for reading. So trace Aristotle's sources (and I suppose including Plato, though I don't have him here) and we'd have the beginnings--or better to say, the earliest significant expressions of the ideas of plays to be read (or committed to memory) as well as viewed. Jumping forward to the early modern period, I would try to see whether the publication of the plays dating to the 1510s coincides with a revival of interest in, or new publications of, Aristotle. I would also investigate the front matter of those earliest plays, all of which I think are still extant. Finding out who the printers were, and the patrons, may help greatly in creating a plausible theory, if not necessarily a definitive answer. Jack Heller _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0442 Friday, 15 February 2002 From: Robin Hamilton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 22:18:30 -0000 Subject: 13.0432 Re: Courtly Love in Shakespeare Comment: Re: SHK 13.0432 Re: Courtly Love in Shakespeare From: Tue S
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0441 Friday, 15 February 2002 From: W. L. Godshalk <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 15:48:28 -0500 Subject: Replacement for Devil's Horn . . .oh place, oh forme, How often dost thou with thy case, thy habit Wrench awe from fooles, and tye the wiser soules To thy false seeming? Blood, thou art blood, Let's write Good Angell on the Deuills horne 'Tis not the Deuills Crest: (Norton Folio, page 87, TLN 1014-19) In John Jowett's Oxford text, the final line is changed to read: "'Tis now the devil's crest" (2.4.17), and in the Textual Companion (471) John comments that the Folio reading "lends itself to no convincing gloss," thus silently dismissing my note on the passage --"'The Devil's Horn': Appearance and Reality," Shakespeare Quarterly 23 (1972): 202-5. John and I have discussed this disagreement privately, and we remain at loggerheads. So, I would like to bring this problem up for public discussion. I believe that the final two lines are easily glossed: If we write Good Angel on the devil's horn, then "fooles" and "the wiser soules" will not longer see it (i.e. the devil's horn) as the devil's crest. The Duke words offer a similar gloss: "O, what may man within him hide,/Though angel on the outward side!" (Oxford 3.1.527-8). I find an analogue in the Decameron Fourth Day, Second Tale, also about a fake angel: "They say commonly in proverbial style: A wicked man who is thought to be good can do evil and yet not have it believed." Yours, Bill Godshalk _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0440 Friday, 15 February 2002 From: Tom Dale Keever <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 12:30:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Romeo and Juliet at Fordham / Lincoln Center Fordham College at Lincoln Center will present Romeo and Juliet at the Pope Auditorium, 113 West 60t Street, at Columbus Avenue., New York, NY Here are the performance times: Thursdays - Saturdays: February 21-28, March 1 & 2, 8:00 pm Friday Matinee: March 1, 12 noon Tickets: $12, Gen Admission; $8 Fordham Staff-Fac-Alumni; $5 Students and Seniors Fordham has a very strong pre-professional theater training program and their productions are well worth seeing. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.0439 Friday, 15 February 2002 [1] From: Geralyn Horton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 11:51:17 -0500 Subj: Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles [2] From: Tom Dale Keever <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 11:35:55 -0500 (EST) Subj: Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles [3] From: Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Saturday, 16 Feb 2002 08:13:34 +1100 Subj: Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geralyn Horton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 11:51:17 -0500 Subject: 13.0427 New York Times Articles Comment: Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles > The New York Times reporter William S. Niederkorn has two articles in > last Sunday's edition (Feb. 10, 2002). One is a review of William > Rubbo's anti-Stratfordian (Marlovian) documentary, "Much Ado about > Something," and the other is an article that purports to describe the > authorship controversy but actually advocates the anti-Stratfordian > position very strongly. The article does mention Terry Gray I don't want to step across the line into taboo territory, but I sincerely hope that the scholars here who consider this a betrayal of journalistic standards will take a few minutes to email a rebuke to the NYTimes, at <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > A single sentence is as effective a rebuke as a detailed point-by-point dissection. The standard is "weight of the evidence" not "beyond reasonable doubt". The NYTimes is widely believed to be a source of unbiased reporting and fact-checked historical accuracy. Students use the NYTimes for research. They will be citing this article for decades. Geralyn Horton http://www.stagepage.orgThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Dale Keever <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 11:35:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: 13.0427 New York Times Articles Comment: Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles It may be too late for people in New York to get into the discussion, but I think that this newest batch of Anti-Stratfordians will be on WNYC's talk show at noon today. [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Saturday, 16 Feb 2002 08:13:34 +1100 Subject: 13.0427 New York Times Articles Comment: Re: SHK 13.0427 New York Times Articles Mike, not William, Rubbo is the Australian film-maker I was telling SHAKSPERians about last year (or was it the year before?), who contacted me when I published my piece about supposed Shakespeare conspiracies in the Sydney Morning Herald. He certainly sems to be getting a lot of publicity for his efforts. Sophie Masson Author site: http://www.northnet.com.au/~smasson _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.