The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1353  Monday, 20 May 2002

[1]     From:   John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 18 May 2002 17:11:19 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

[2]     From:   Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 18 May 2002 12:35:07 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

[3]     From:   Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 18 May 2002 09:36:14 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

[4]     From:   Brian Willis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 18 May 2002 11:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

[5]     From:   Laura Blankenship <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Sunday, 19 May 2002 12:42:45 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

[6]     From:   Marcia Eppich-Harris <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Sunday, 19 May 2002 22:49:31 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

[7]     From:   Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Tuesday, 21 May 2002 02:52:56 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment


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From:           John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 18 May 2002 17:11:19 +0100
Subject: 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

I feel that I must reluctantly agree with Sam Small: inflicting
Shakespeare on the uninterested (as opposed to the disinterested) must
be a cruel and unusual punishment.  (I would lower the age to 21,
however.  Graduate students, particularly in English Literature, are
surely fair game.)  I am sure that my continuing interest in Shakespeare
results from being forced to abandon the subject at the age of 16 (in
favour of Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics, since you ask - not that
you will catch me pontificating on scientific subjects: I leave that to
those with PhDs in English Literature.)

John Briggs

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From:           Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 18 May 2002 12:35:07 -0400
Subject: 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

Sam Small wrote:

> Within most Shakespeare plots there are
> many middle-aged preoccupations <snip> not to speak of tortuous sexual
> attractions to both sexes.
> This is not the type of material that gets the attention of school
> children.

Really?

> 1. Would
> you rather see "Measure for Measure" or go to a Britney Spears concert?
> 2 Would you rather watch "King Lear" or watch "The Jerry Springer Show?"
> 3. Would you rather read the sonnets or kiss your boy/girlfriend?

Well, two out of three ain't bad.

Laura Blankenship takes issue with Macia's observation that liberal arts
education is wasted on most students:

>  many of the computer scientists I know actually got their
> degrees in humanities fields, one I know in Renaissance literature who
> did his thesis on Marvell's "Upon Appleton House."  Would that all
> scientists had more of a humanities background.

And would that humanities specialists had more understanding of the
difference between statistical and anecdotal evidence.

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From:           Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 18 May 2002 09:36:14 -0700
Subject: 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment
Comment:        Re: SHK 13.1335 Re: Results of the Experiment

Sam Small writes,

>Even in the tenuous successes that some teachers have mentioned perhaps
>some extra questions could have been added to the experiment: 1. Would
>you rather see "Measure for Measure" or go to a Britney Spears concert?
>2 Would you rather watch "King Lear" or watch "The Jerry Springer Show?"
>3. Would you rather read the sonnets or kiss your boy/girlfriend?

This sort of argument could be used against any sort of effort
whatsoever:  "Would you rather go to work or sleep in?" ; "Would you
rather dig a ditch or lie in the shade?"; "Would you rather prepare a
lecture or make love to your spouse?".

Cheers,
Se     

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