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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1818 Tuesday, 3 September 2002 [1] From: John W. Kennedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:49:14 -0400 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland [2] From: Al Magary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:20:02 -0700 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland [3] From: Richard Nathan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, 30 Aug 2002 02:13:44 +0000 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: John W. Kennedy <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:49:14 -0400 Subject: 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland Comment: Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland Mike Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > >Do you advocate returning to the Lyceum style of Shakespeare production? And is there no via media but we must choose either the Lyceum style and the style of the Nephelococcygian travelog that's been boring audiences silly ever since Gordon Craig first got up on his hind legs? [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Magary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 09:20:02 -0700 Subject: 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland Comment: Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland Mike Jensen asked: >I'm not sure I get Al Magary's point.... >Do you advocate returning to the Lyceum style of Shakespeare production? No. My complaint has to do with the anything-goes approach to Shakespeare. As he's definitely public-domain text and has been performed longer than just about any playwright beyond Sophocles et al., the attitude of Sh. producers (directors, designers, whoever is calling the shots) seems to be along the lines of, Hey, we haven't tried wrecked cars as sets for Julius Caesar! There are many more plausible, meaningful, enjoyable, and authentic stagings of JC possible between the Lyceum and, eg, Ashland's. (Thanks to Debra Murphy for her vivid description of the puddle of red goo that features in the Macbeth at Ashland.) Along with the license that Sh. producers exercise comes the audience's regrettable tendency to be uncritical (anything goes=anything is acceptable), along the lines of, Gosh, that Laird Williamson sure knows how to stage Julius Caesar! Al Magary [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Nathan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, 30 Aug 2002 02:13:44 +0000 Subject: 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland Comment: Re: SHK 13.1810 Re: Jarring Experience at Ashland My wife and I saw three productions at Ashland this year: Macbeth, Titus Andronicus and Winter's Tale. Our biggest problem with Macbeth was that the actor playing Macbeth was a tenor who we have usually seen in comedy parts. I'm sorry if this offends any tenors out there, but I strongly believe Macbeth should be played by a baritone. OSF played elements of the Banquo's ghost scene for comedy; there was one line of Lady Macbeth's in that scene that was hilarious - I can't remember what it was though. Can anyone remind me? Macbeth dropped his cup of wine when he saw Banquo's ghost, and for a moment I expected him to do a spit take. It reminded me of my parody version, "Scots On The Rocks" (which can be read at http://www.shakespeare-parodies.com) The "Titus Andronicus" was okay, but not memorable. I can't comment on it, because I've already forgotten most of it. Our favorite was "Winter's Tale," - which was set in the 1950's and 1960's. I thought the period worked. It was charming. We also saw the "Route 66" revue at the cabaret theater a few blocks away. It had nothing to do with Shakespeare or the Festival, but it was a terrific show. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1817 Tuesday, 3 September 2002 [1] From: Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:25:29 -0400 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers [2] From: Ira Zinman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 11:26:46 EDT Subj: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers [3] From: Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:58:07 -0700 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers [4] From: Thomas Larque <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 17:38:18 +0100 Subj: Sam Small's "Passion in Pieces" [5] From: Ted Dykstra <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 29 Aug 2002 13:12:08 EDT Subj: Teenagers [6] From: Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:25:29 -0400 Subject: 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers Comment: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers Here's an anecdote to the contrary. My 12 year daughter tells me she loves Shakespeare. She first watched the Trevor Nunn TN film with me when she was six and liked that; then I took her to a production of MND when she was eight. She saw Shrew when she was ten. And this summer I took to her see Henry V. She has read Lamb's Tales and, before that, several other books with the plays retold as stories. She reads books about Shakespeare like the Shakespeare Scribbler. She reads these all on her own and asks to go to productions. Also, I was at a conference recently, and it turned out that everyone there had been involved in at least one theater production of a Shakespeare as a child or teenager. [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ira Zinman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 11:26:46 EDT Subject: 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers Comment: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers In response to Sam's article, I think it fair to say that "forced to study" any thing is an issue with any child, adolescent or adult. However, for some very enlightening information on the value of exposure of children to Shakespeare or other classics, I suggest going to www.theurbanman.com. Click on the Never-never-land article of Marc Zasada. His conclusions on exposure of the classics to children is the same effect as noted in adults that Martin Lings points out in reference to Shakespeare audiences. It is very positive and uplifting. Lings book ,THE SACRED ART OF SHAKESPEARE, with a preface by HRH the Prince of Wales may surprise many. Prince Charles is apparently an avid Shakespeare reader. Sincerely, Ira [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:58:07 -0700 Subject: 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers Comment: Re: SHK 13.1814 Shakespeare and Teenagers Sam Small remarks, >I now think that teenagers are rather frightening creatures. Was >I really one? Have you ever ceased to be? Your dismissal of the young as a group seems to show the same sort of black and white logic ascribed by the article to pre-pubescents, while the random abuse of your posts seems adolescent in its recklessness. Now, by the way, that you have scientific evidence that teenagers understand love as different from lust, I assume that you'll be willing to go back to teaching Romeo and Juliet? Cheers, Se
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 13.1816 Tuesday, 3 September 2002 [1] From: Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:12:57 -0400 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC [2] From: Jan Pick <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 13:57:19 +0100 Subj: Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC [3] From: John Drakakis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 13:58:28 +0100 Subj: RE: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC [4] From: Matthew Baynham <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 29 Aug 2002 09:32:56 +0100 Subj: RSC Standards [5] From: Stuart Hampton-Reeves <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 02 Sep 2002 08:15:32 +0100 Subj: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC [6] From: Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 Subj: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 08:12:57 -0400 Subject: 13.1811 Re: RSC Comment: Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC Mr. Hawkes, Would you say more about how the production was "gratuitously anti-American"? Thank you. [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Pick <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Wednesday, 28 Aug 2002 13:57:19 +0100 Subject: 13.1811 Re: RSC Comment: Re: SHK 13.1811 Re: RSC I voted with my feet and stayed away from this one, I was so angry with Hodge for disdaining bringing his massive talent to the Midland Stratford-going plebs! I thought they did it in 'American' accents so that the director