The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0826 Wednesday, 30 April 2003
[1] From: William Proctor Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Tuesday, 29 Apr 2003 11:10:04 -0400
Subj: Re: SHK 14.0817 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
[2] From: B. Vickers <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 11:12:34 +0200
Subj: Re: SHK 14.0776 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
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From: William Proctor Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Tuesday, 29 Apr 2003 11:10:04 -0400
Subject: 14.0817 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
Comment: Re: SHK 14.0817 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
Interesting as I am finding this discussion, and I really mean that, I
fear that we are in danger of forgetting what WS says in another play,
if it is indeed him saying it, about his craft, and that of Peele,
Greene, Jonson, and the lot:
The poet's eye, in a fine frenzy rolling,
Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven;
And as imagination bodies forth
The forms of things unknown, the poet's pen
Turns them to shapes, and gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name.
Such tricks hath strong imagination. . . .
This may be where panthers lurk and human sacrifice takes place.
William Proctor Williams
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From: B. Vickers <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 11:12:34 +0200
Subject: 14.0776 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
Comment: Re: SHK 14.0776 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
Jim Carroll's objections that 'one did not go into one's backyard and
hunt panthers in Rome' shows that he must have a very strange idea of
Elizabethan drama. Dare I mention such things as dramatic conventions
and the audience's imagination?
On the dramaturgy of Act 1, if Mr. Carroll reads on to my ch. 7 he will
find an analysis of Peele's dramaturgy -- based in part on the detailed
studies of Werner Senn, Gregor Sarrazin, MacDonald Jackson, and Al
Braunmuller -- which shows many similarities of structure and function
with Peele.
As to the 20 independent linguistic tests I have documented, I don't
intend to argue the toss with him, since he's made it very clear that he
doesn't intend to be persuaded. Ars longa, vita brevis est.
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