The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 14.0837  Thursday, 1 May 2003

From:           Bob Grumman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 15:41:02 -0400
Subject: 14.0826 Re: King John, Titus, Peele
Comment:        Re: SHK 14.0826 Re: King John, Titus, Peele

>Jim Carroll's objections that 'one did not go into one's backyard and
>hunt panthers in Rome' shows that he must have a very strange idea of
>Elizabethan drama. Dare I mention such things as dramatic conventions
>and the audience's imagination?
>On the dramaturgy of Act 1, if Mr. Carroll reads on to my ch. 7 he will
>find an analysis of Peele's dramaturgy -- based in part on the detailed
>studies of Werner Senn, Gregor Sarrazin, MacDonald Jackson, and Al
>Braunmuller -- which shows many similarities of structure and function
>with Peele.
>As to the 20 independent linguistic tests I have documented, I don't
>intend to argue the toss with him, since he's made it very clear that he
>doesn't intend to be persuaded. Ars longa, vita brevis est.

I completely agree with Brian Vickers that he clearly has no chance
against the insightful criticisms of his position that Jim Carroll has

I have only one comment to add, which is that I find it interesting that
Vickers and like minds find it as easy as Shakespeare-rejecters to tell
us that Shakespeare could never have picked up this or that scrap of
information--as though a certain school was the only place the scrap was
available, and not the stray book (aside from Holinshed and other books
we know Shakespeare read), or the friend with the odd bit of data, or a
fellow actor, or a sailor in a bar.  Etc.

--Bob G.

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