The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 15.0398  Wednesday, 11 February 2004

[1]     From:   John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 18:27:45 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.0386 Henry V Question

[2]     From:   Lea Luecking Frost <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 21:52:12 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 15.0386 Henry V Question


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From:           John Briggs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 18:27:45 -0000
Subject: 15.0386 Henry V Question
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0386 Henry V Question

  Larry Weiss wrote:

 >Was John of Gaunt Flemish?

Probably not, but his mother, Philippa of Hainaut, could be described as
Dutch - although for some reason she came in at No. 5 in a poll of '100
Great Black Britons' (there is some debate as to how her eldest son got
the soubriquet 'Black Prince').

http://www.100greatblackbritons.com/results.htm

 >Is Lennox Lewis English?

Yes, but he didn't make the top 10 in the above poll.

John Briggs

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From:           Lea Luecking Frost <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 21:52:12 -0600
Subject: 15.0386 Henry V Question
Comment:        Re: SHK 15.0386 Henry V Question

Larry Weiss asks, rhetorically:

 >Was John of Gaunt Flemish?

Interesting example, given a certain speech from "Thomas of Woodstock":

"His native country? Why, that is France my lords!
At Bordeaux he was born, which place allures
And ties his deep affections still to France.
Richard is English blood: not English born.
Thy mother travailed in unhappy hours
When she, at Bordeaux, left her heavy load.
The soil is fat for wines, not fit for men,
And England now laments that heavy time."

Rather an ironic thing to put into the mouth of John of *Gaunt*, of all
people! I have to say this bit had never made me think of Henry V before
-- but "English blood, not English born" applies to him just as well,
but in context, the meaning is entirely different...

Regards,
Lea

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