The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1175 Monday, 4 July 2005
[1] From: Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Friday, 1 Jul 2005 20:00:15 +0100
Subj: Re: SHK 16.11647 Help with the Sonnets
[2] From: Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Saturday, 2 Jul 2005 05:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subj: Re: SHK 16.11647 Help with the Sonnets
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From: Peter Bridgman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Friday, 1 Jul 2005 20:00:15 +0100
Subject: 16.11647 Help with the Sonnets
Comment: Re: SHK 16.11647 Help with the Sonnets
Martin Green writes ...
>I have long maintained that Wriothesley (Rosely) was the Rose (the red
>and white rose) of the Sonnets, most recently in "The Pronunciation of
>Wriothesley," in the April 2005 issue of English Studies.
I thought it was/is pronounced Rizley.
Peter Bridgman
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From: Larry Weiss <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Saturday, 2 Jul 2005 05:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 16.11647 Help with the Sonnets
Comment: Re: SHK 16.11647 Help with the Sonnets
>"Omne animal post coitum triste" is, of course, an obvious reading of
>sonnet 129. Equally obvious, I think, is "post masturbationem" (which
>then could be regarded as unfaithfulness) - in such a reading, the
>"waste of shame" is the semen spilled on the ground (Genesis 38) and
>not a female "waist" and pudendum.
But: "Until action lust is perjured, murd'rous, bloody, full of blame/
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust"
One need not go to such lengths to engage one's hand.
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