The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0047  Monday, 22 January 2007

From: 		Graham Bradshaw <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: 		Saturday, 20 Jan 2007 06:55:21 +0900
Subject: 18.0043 A Question
Comment: 	Re: SHK 18.0043 A Question

 >John D. Cox writes:  "Those who are suspicious of this enterprise
 >can help the discussion by acknowledging presentism's first point:
 >that we indeed cannot entirely shed our own identity when trying to
 >understand the past."

 >Scot Zarela replies: "Why should this be acknowledged?  Has it ever
 >been seriously disputed? Who, exactly, has held that we (or anyone
 >else for that matter) can entirely shed our own identity ---  whether
 >when trying to understand the past, or at any other time?   Entirely?
 >Surely whatever claim presentism aims to correct is itself more
 >modest and more worth serious consideration than this suggests."

Oh, the whirligigs of time! Cox's comment and Zarela's rejoinder 
reminded me of a passage in Herbert Butterfield's "The Whig 
Interpretation of History" (1931): "The whig interpretation of history 
is not merely the property of whigs and it is much more subtle than 
mental bias; it lies in a trick of organisation, an unexamined habit of 
mind that any historian may fall into... It is the result of the 
practice of abstracting things from their historical context and judging 
them apart from their context-- estimating them and organising the 
historical story by a system of direct reference to the present." To 
think of "presentists" as whiggish seems waggish, but, as Butterfield 
also pointed out,  "Whiggism" in its broader sense "describes the 
attitude by which men of the Renaissance seem to have approached the 
Middle Ages" and "the  attitude of the 18th century to many a period of 
the past" and is not  tied to any particular political perspective.

Graham Bradshaw

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